A Big Change -- Opening The Board Up

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
Yes, this does affect you. Keep reading.

Background

After a few weeks of discussion in the Mod and Admin Teams, we're making a significant change in the way THN Games works.

Since moving over to vBulletin around sixteen months ago, we switched over to a system of "subscribe for the content that interests you". We did this because we were concerned that THN was becoming too focused on a single game (at the time, BF2) and that we were damaging our diversity by drowning out other content.

In retrospect, I think we were probably in the middle of a different transition, from games that we had played before to newer games and that BF2 was just the flash point of the moment. Whatever the case, we switched to extensive use of public usergroups and specific game forums only visible if you joined those usergroups.

Thing is, we don't think that's worked too well. It was a good experiment and perhaps helped us to start with but, in the long term, it has stopped being helpful. Now, it is complex to manage, confusing for new members and divisive of our community in general. Moreover, we've done some scouting around and it's really very apparent that other communities are quite capable of holding down multiple games at once and thriving as a result. Is THN so different? We assert no, not really. :)

The Change

The key change will be that the vast majority of public usergroups and game forums will be removed. Posts from those game forums will be migrated into Games Chat. The board registration will no longer offer or require a method of joining these public usergroups and we'll update the FAQ, the Games Chat description and assorted guidance posts to remove reference to them.

Only Games Chat, Battlefield and World of Warcraft forums will continue to exist under the Games category. All the Team forums, which are private groups for particular clans, closed guilds, and working teams in THN, will remain untouched as they retain a fair reason to be private/closed. The sub-categories of Games will be removed, leaving everything at the top level but as that will only be three forums it won't be too heavy a load on screen real estate.

All non-private game-related usergroups will be deleted. You can still use Games You Play searches to find people who play the same games as you.

Why?

The following is almost a direct cut-and-paste of my basic reasons delivered to the Mod Team. Many reasons, in no particular order:

  • The usergroup system is too confusing for new members. We have a fair sign-up rate but fail to translate that into active users.
  • THN Games indexes in search engines really badly because much of our good content is behind "closed" doors.
  • The system is a bastard to administer.
  • Other sites blatantly succeed in running multiple games side-by-side. Sure, we have our community, they have theirs, but are we really so different? The usergroups appear to divide our community rather than enabling us to just "do our bit".

This change hopes to alleviate all these issues and, I fervently hope, not create any substantial new issues.

OMG, like, what can I do about it?

Like it? Just hang in there and these changes will be happening in the next few days.

Don't like it? Post here but be prepared for a detailed discussion of why you believe this change does not benefit THN. I'm just going to ignore disagreement without adequate justification.

Is that all?

Actually, probably not. However, this is all just for now. Anything else depends on the availability of Admin and Developer time and that is almost universally in short supply.
 

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
Yeah no complaints from me and Ronin you better be ready to redo the rep table cos after this little number i reckon you will be so far ahead there won't be enough room on my 22" screen for all your blobbies. Will people still need to sign up for the battlefield and WoW sections then?
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
waterproofbob said:
Will people still need to sign up for the battlefield and WoW sections then?

No they won't. They'll be completely open access, just like Games Chat. The Battlefield and World of Warcraft groups will be removed to boot.
 

thatbloke

Junior Administrator
In a way this could generate more interest in the various community members in the new games... If they see the posts then they may be more interested and think "Hey, I wonder what all the fuss is about?" (- A la Twisto and WoW when we all started it up and his quote I can still remember: "It's not like it's gonna pull me away from bf2 is it???" :D:D:D)

Good idea. Also liking the way it will make things less confusing! Especially for our foreign WoW members...
 

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
No they won't. They'll be completely open access, just like Games Chat. The Battlefield and World of Warcraft groups will be removed to boot.

I can see why your doing it but it will just require a little more new post sifting than normal (a la WoW) on my part. Good luck with the shift.
 

BiG D

Administrator
Staff member
vB allows you to double-click on the icon for a forum to mark it read. That shouldn't be too difficult for ya :P
 
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elDiablo

Guest
vB allows you to double-click on the icon for a forum to mark it read. That shouldn't be too difficult for ya :P

And that marks all posts within that forum as read? Is there anyway to specifically ignore a forum? Like bob, a la WoW. It'll be a bit annoying for me to have to click the forum icon before I click new posts everytime I visit the site, and a way to ignore would be useful.

If not, I'll have to get used to it, and I agree with the reasoning behind it :)
 

Nanor

Well-Known Member
Mmm.. so.. will all games be bunged into one forum, or will each game still have it's own forum but everyone will be able to access it?
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
I'm expecting that many of you will have a forum layout that looks like this:

  • Community
    • The Welcome Thread
    • The Chat Box
    • The Soap Box
  • Games
    • Games Chat
    • Battlefield
    • World of Warcraft
  • Teams
    • ... any teams/clans/private guilds you might be a part of ...
  • Site & Servers
    • Hey Admins!

Of course, if you're not part of any teams then skip everything in that section.

Make sense?
 
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elDiablo

Guest
Fair enough on the old no way to ignore a forum. I'll get used to it :)

Just curious, if the community starts to play other games as largely as we do with BF and WoW, will there be the possibility of having a forum for that? This is in the distant (gaming) future I am talking about, not next week or something :)
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
elDiablo said:
if the community starts to play other games as largely as we do with BF and WoW, will there be the possibility of having a forum for that?

Yes, absolutely. But the scale at which I'd switch over to a dedicated forum for a game has increased substantially. We've had a few flash-in-the-pan games that didn't last more than a couple of months, which is just fine by me but they don't need a dedicated forum to do their thing.
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
Well, this seems to have received very positive feedback so I'm going to be going ahead with this change later tonight (Tuesday 3rd April). I'll take the board offline while I work but I expect downtime to be no longer than 30 minutes. I'll advise when I'm setting up to take the board offline in the shoutbox.

[edit]Corrected February to April.[/edit]
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
No, I admit, the February bit was a lie. April, I mean. No idea where February came from... :P
 
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elDiablo

Guest
...No idea where February came from... :P

Well, Wikipedia says that

Wikipedia said:
February was named after the Latin term februum, which means purification, via the purification ritual Februa held on February 15 in the old Roman calendar. January and February were the last two months to be added to the Roman calendar, since the Romans originally considered winter a monthless period. They were added by Numa Pompilius about 700 BC. February remained the last month of the calendar year until the time of the decemvirs (c. 450 BC), when it became the second month. At certain intervals Roman priests inserted an intercalary month, Intercalaris, into the middle of February to realign the year with the seasons. See from Roman to Julian. Thereafter, it remained the second month of the calendar year, meaning the order that months are displayed (January, February, March, …, December) within a year-at-a-glance calendar. Even during the Middle Ages, when the numbered Anno Domini year began on March 25 or December 25, February continued to be the second month whenever all twelve months were displayed in order.

February begins, astronomically speaking, with the sun in the constellation of Capricornus and ends with the sun in the constellation of Aquarius. Astrologically speaking, February begins with the sun in the sign of Aquarius and ends in the sign of Pisces.

Historical names for February include the Anglo-Saxon terms Solmoneth (mud month) and Kale-monath (named for cabbage) as well as Charlemagne's designation Hornung. In Finnish, the month is called helmikuu, meaning "month of the pearl".

:D That's where February comes from!
 
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