aetheism > christianity ... ?
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I don't think that was very good tbh - there must be better arguments to say atheism is good than "look, there are atheist scientists! and entertainers! and some give money to charity, too!"...
I guess that could be an argument that atheists are no worse than christians, but better?
(and yes, I'm aware of the other facts they were telling, but the bulk of the vid was just showing famous atheists)
I guess that could be an argument that atheists are no worse than christians, but better?
(and yes, I'm aware of the other facts they were telling, but the bulk of the vid was just showing famous atheists)
waterproofbob
Junior Administrator
mkay this really does grind my gears when ppl take things written in the bible and go look at me look at me, i'm clever enough to misconstru a bible verse. check my bad self. it sickens me.
as a christian i can completely understand that some ppl don't believe in God.
had i not had the experiences that i have had in my life, for example baptism in holy spirit, speaking in tongues and healing i may not believe as strongly as i do. as i am a christian but am also a very logical scientific person. i've spoken to many atheists over the years some of which over the time i've known them have become christians and i can honestly say they were great lovely kind ppl when i first met them, but they will all admit to being far happier as christians than they ever were as atheists.
I have read the entirity of the bible and there are parts of teh old testament that u have to take avec a pinch of salt. the new testament is a far better reflection on what modern christianity is about.
This sort of thing just makes me sad tbh, its like the ppl who say that religion is to blame for most of the worlds problems, this makes me want to eat my own head, it is the misunderstanding of religion that causes problems not the actual ideals of religion. from which we get our moral values, our basic law system and the ethics we live by.
as a christian i can completely understand that some ppl don't believe in God.
had i not had the experiences that i have had in my life, for example baptism in holy spirit, speaking in tongues and healing i may not believe as strongly as i do. as i am a christian but am also a very logical scientific person. i've spoken to many atheists over the years some of which over the time i've known them have become christians and i can honestly say they were great lovely kind ppl when i first met them, but they will all admit to being far happier as christians than they ever were as atheists.
I have read the entirity of the bible and there are parts of teh old testament that u have to take avec a pinch of salt. the new testament is a far better reflection on what modern christianity is about.
This sort of thing just makes me sad tbh, its like the ppl who say that religion is to blame for most of the worlds problems, this makes me want to eat my own head, it is the misunderstanding of religion that causes problems not the actual ideals of religion. from which we get our moral values, our basic law system and the ethics we live by.
Waterproffbob said:
"parts"?
I'd say there are possibly some parts of the old testament that you don't have to completely ignore in today's society...
I mean, "don't eat crayfish"? "stone your son to death if he disobeys you"?
etc etc etc.
(plus the whole creation, of course
)The new testament, that's a different story (but, again, I'd take Paul's words with that pinch of salt you mentioned before. And John's, too.).
Nanor
Well-Known Member
OMG. In Gran Canaria, people with hoods (similar to the KKK, but they were purple) said mass, and John had a Sword!! Roxxor!
On topic... I remember hearing a theory that the bible was a story, like Lord of The Rings, and in 2000 years, people will believe in a Middle Earth :/
On topic... I remember hearing a theory that the bible was a story, like Lord of The Rings, and in 2000 years, people will believe in a Middle Earth :/
Tetsuo_Shima
In Cryo Sleep
I think bob is talking absolute sense when he says what he does. People just seem so inclined to disassemble other people's points of view, and for no apparent reason. Christianity appears to have become a 'hate' figure over the past few years (decades?) just for the reason of ... people wanting to be different? I'm a christian, but I, like bob, also have a good grounding in science and fact. I like to think of it as I take my morals from christianity, I take everything else from fact based around those morals.
In my last year of school, a few of my friends began to speak very openly about their hate of Christianity. I didnt like this at all, it wasnt just a simple 'no, I dont believe in Christianity or god. I like to distance myself from that sort of thing.' It was 'I hate christianity, why the hell would you want to follow that way of life? They are evil, its a good excuse for brainwashing the population. religion causes wars.' and all that nonsense. I'm fed up with all these people picking away at the threads of Christianity because they have nothing better to do.
In my last year of school, a few of my friends began to speak very openly about their hate of Christianity. I didnt like this at all, it wasnt just a simple 'no, I dont believe in Christianity or god. I like to distance myself from that sort of thing.' It was 'I hate christianity, why the hell would you want to follow that way of life? They are evil, its a good excuse for brainwashing the population. religion causes wars.' and all that nonsense. I'm fed up with all these people picking away at the threads of Christianity because they have nothing better to do.
Gibsonfire
In Cryo Sleep
I agree as well, in most cases now its 'uncool' to be a christian (or any other religon in fact), I myself follow many ideals of many religons and call myself spiritual, I have no problem with any religons or athiesm, however what annoys me is when some people think they are right and everyone else is wrong and that includes some atheists, some christians, some muslims, some Jew etc. etc. etc. Just let people believe what they believe and dont talk out against them.