Apple or Sony?

Gopha

In Cryo Sleep
The big question, who is better, Apple obviously dominate in the MP3/4 area but Sony have a new design which is very good, i personnally have an Ipod Nano, but the sony's look good, your views on this?
 

Haven

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Why have you narrowed down the choice to only Sony or Apple ? I personally would not choose either of them for a variety of reasons. Rather than elaborate on my own personal preference I'd like to know what made you think of just these two manufacturers before I give my own views ?
 

Gopha

In Cryo Sleep
well i just pictured these as the major companys, i mean of course you have creative and people like that but these are like barons i think
 

Gopha

In Cryo Sleep
i just thought that these 2 were the main rivals in PC software sometimes and in MP3/4 players as sony released there new model recently the A300 found here with all the other models they have madehttp://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProductCategory.action?site=odw_en_GB&category=PAW+Network+Walkman
and also becaue apple dominate and i wondered if any of you were breaking the mould and not getting things from Apple, sony or creative?
 
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Fi$hy

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Hmm, I've heard Creative are fine - but they don't seem to have achieved anything innovative enough to have broken the choke-hold Apple has on the market.

Secondly I'm a posy git (I use a Vaio for pete's sake) and thus on asthetics, personally I've found Sony or Apple to be the most pleasing.

When I bought my MP3 player (1st Gen Apple Mini) back in July 2004. I went with the player that I was most familiar with control-system wise, and courtacy of Apple's market share, the MP3 player I had most experiance of was the iPod.
 

[THN]Buffalo_Hunter

In Cryo Sleep
I won't touch Apple or Sony because of their high-handed approach to DRM. That's why I bought a 30GB Creative Zen instead (plus the fact that it was substantially cheaper).
 

Haven

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Sure they are both big companies ... but that doesnt mean that their players are the best out there. Likewise the guy who sells the most isnt necessarily selling the best that there is. He just happens to be the best at marketing and branding.

Two of my prefered manufacturers of mp3 players are iriver (for the H140) and rio (for their now old karma product).

Everyone will have their own needs and wants from an mp3 player but these both satisfy mine.

[edit]I also rather like this player but its a lot of money for a player... [/edit]
 

MoTo^

In Cryo Sleep
yup just what haven said, cant really narrow it down so much. for example, personally i really dont like the iPod and dont see what the point of having so much space is. I only wanted something to listen to music on the train etc and ive got the Creative Muvo TX, and even tho its only got 256mb space, at the moment it has well over a 100 songs on it with plenty more to spare, and it only cost £45 or so. satisfies my needs completely :)
 

Twisto

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I've got a Archos Gmini 400, and cant find any fault with it.
I've used an Ipod, and while I was impressed with how user friendly it was, my Gmini is undoubtably better in every way.
 

Gibsonfire

In Cryo Sleep
I dont like mp3 players that have a hard drive (i.e. anything higher than 4GB) just because I find they would break easily with the activities I do. I personally have an Ipod Shuffle 1GB and it holds 240 songs.
 

Pestcontrol

In Cryo Sleep
Last time i saw a Sony, one of those really tiny round 512mb players, it had an absolutely horrific interface and wasn't able to play mp3 at all.

Sony insists on it's own inferior ATRAC format originally developed for minidisc and the software needed to convert every song before copying it. You couldn't just copy them over as files like you can with any other player.

Unless Sony has stepped off this practise, i wouldn't go near them. Looks fancy, is crap. Big, big shame, because otherwise they're nice little things.

If i had to buy a player now, it'd probably be iRiver or Samsung Yepp, Creative has some nice things too.

Just remember, the difference between a flash based and disk based player is more than just the storage, disk based players usually have a better interface, big, backlit screen, equaliser, etc. Flash players often run from simple AA or AAA batteries, where disk players have internal, or replaceable fancy mobile-phone-ish batteries. They need replacing after a few years.
 

DocBot

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creative is what I've got - one of their MuVo n200's - I think it's something "nano" now.. anyway, 1 gig, no problems so far, battery operated (I like that myself, no recharging, and it runs for 10-15 hrs on a AAA battery). anc cheap. I can heartily recommend it (still, there are some issues, but I tihink they're sorted now with the newer versions).
 

Tetsuo_Shima

In Cryo Sleep
I just use my phone, a Sony Ericsson K750i if you're interested, and it does me just fine. Its a fantastic piece of kit, still the best phone out there IMO. I cracked a 512mb memory stick pro duo into it, and Ive got about a hundred songs on it ATM, along with all my videos, photos and games. I could probably manage two hundred if I made them WMA files rather than mp3.
 

Gopha

In Cryo Sleep
i did use my phone at first Samsung e720 (external mp3 controls on the front) but it kept getting confiscated by teachers at school, so idecided to get a NANO , i was going to get an ipod video but i didnt like the idea of a hard drive on my ipod, so i decided to stick with the Nano, it only uses 4g ram i believe and it can hold 1000 songs, of which i do use most of .

Also i do believe that if something goes wrong with my Ipod i have a 4 year warranty, and on the bakc it has been laser ingraved -----Gopha's Nano----
--Randomness--
 
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Fi$hy

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It's a one year warrenty, unless you pay for the extended 2 year warrenty.
Warrenty extensions are hardly-ever worth it, as when you get into the extended period, equipment is usually so technilogically outdated you may as well replace it when it breaks.
 
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Fuzzy Bunny

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I've got a blue iPod Mini. Currently has 868 songs on it. I like having a lot of space because I can just turn on shuffle and not have to touch it for the rest of the time it's on. The reason that I got an mp3 player was that I didn't like having to carry around a bunch of CDs, and switching them every half an hour or so was bothersome as well.

One thing that I don't like about my iPod is that since I first bought it (about 2 years ago), the battery life has degraded considerably. When I first got it, it had about 10 hours of batter life. Now it's got something closer to 6.
 

Pestcontrol

In Cryo Sleep
From Wikipedia:
At a typical 100% charge level (notebook battery, full most of the time) at 25 degrees Celsius, Li-ion batteries irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year from the time they are manufactured, even when unused. (6% at 0 °C, 20% at 25 °C, 35% at 40 °C). When stored at 40% charge level, these figures are reduced to 2%, 4%, 15% at 0, 25 and 40 degrees Celsius respectively.) Every (deep) discharge cycle decreases their capacity. The degradation is sloped such that 100 cycles leave the battery with about 75% to 85% of the original. When used in notebook computers or cellular phones, this rate of deterioration means that after three to five years the battery will have capacities too low to be still usable.

A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life cycle is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not on the number of charge/discharge cycles. This drawback is not widely publicized.

This is one of the reasons i don't like iPods, you need to send it back to have the battery replaced, Apple even lost a lawsuit over this as as they charged way too much for it.


Unsurprisingly google has about 162,000 hits for "diy ipod battery replacement" :)
 
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ol1v3r

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I agree with Gibsonfire on this one .. I only have a 4 gig-er myself , does me fine .. I dont see why people would want to put their entire music collection on some £200 60 gig thing .. Why not just stick to the songs you're listening to at the moment? =]
 
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