Best games ever.

Panda with issues...

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Was bored this morning, and have been thinking about this yesterday, sure to cause some debate. I'm sure there are some I've missed, and I'm sure I'll take some flak for some choices, but overall, this is a list of games that made me the twisted heartless cynical, intolerant bastard I am today, shaping my childhood:

Best games: My list

Best flight sim type game: Freespace 2, close runner up is the original x wing, and tie fighter. Ace combat, squadron leader is also fantastic, though a different sort of game

Best FPS: In no particular order: Half life, Alien vs Predator gold edition, System Shock 2, Thief 2: the metal age. Quake. For console: Goldeneye 64.

Best team based multiplayer FPS: Battlefield 2.

Best point and click: Day of the tentacle, sorry monkey island fans, close runner up, the simon the sorcerer series.

Best RPG: Planescape torment, (goddamn I need a copy, used to borrow it off a mate). Runners up: System Shock 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Pokemon: Blue (we all know blue was better than red)

Best stealth 'em up: Thief 2: the metal age, I love metal gear solid, but seriously, thief shits on it from an unbearable height.

Best beat em ups: In order: Bloody Roar 3, Street fighter 2, soul calibre 2, virtua fighter 4, streets of rage 2, Super smash bros.

Best coop gaming: In order: Streets of rage 2, Diablo 2, Battlefield 2. notable newer games: left 4 dead, Gears of War.

Best Adventure/platforming: Tomb Raider (the original)

Best puzzler: Tetris, with a valiant effort from aqua aqua: wetrex 2, bejewelled, pong, Portal, Bookworm adventures.

Best Survival horror: 3 way tie: Resident evil 4, wii edition for gameplay, silent hill 2, for you know, actually being scary, Eternal darkness: sanities requiem for generally messing with your mind.

Best RTS: For gameplay: World in Conflict, for story, Homeworld. Runners up: Advanced Wars Dual Strike, the original C&C, Starcraft Broodwar, Company of Heroes series. For scope, but didn't really take off: Sins of a Solar empire.

Best multiplayer RTS: WiC.

Best competitive multiplayer: Worms, Counter Strike: Source, Mario Kart 64.

Best Racing Game: Mario kart 64.

Best game that they sell to you over and over and over and over again and you all keep lapping up: Any of the Zelda games

Best film with some gaming moments: Metal Gear Solid 2

Best sports game: Depends on the sport really, overall though, probably SSX tricky. Wii sports is awesome though.

Best music/rhythm game: Guitar hero 2. Close runner up: Rock Band 2

Best sandbox game: GTA3 San Andreas, honourable mention, animal crossing

Most ridiculously addictive minigame: The count the pokemon game from pokemon stadium 2.

Best multiplayer community support from any game (and works flawlessly): World in Conflict.

Now, in ascending order:

The Top 5:


The 2 'I can't believe I have to leave them off's:

Half Life and Mario Kart 64.

Half Life stormed in from left field, putting a story into FPS games, paving the way for Valve to become the powerhouse it is today, revolutionising multiplayer community modding (Counter Strike, Day of Defeat etc...). It's successor introduced physics to the gaming world, spawning such might as Portal, and kicked everyone into action by forcing the widespread introduction of digital distribution mediums (steam).

Mario Kart Could be the best multiplayer game of all time. Along with goldeneye, the reason to still own a 64. Lets be honest people, if you had an hour to kill, and someone pressed that classic controller in your hands, and suggested: 'Kart?' WOULD YOU PHYSICALLY BE ABLE TO SAY NO?

At 5:

Resident Evil 4: Wiimake

Though by this time this game had already been released separately on 2 other consoles (Gamecube and PS2), this is the definitive edition.
A decent storyline (by Resi standards) was combined by the (much needed) decision to break away from the fixed camera angle of the previous games, and boy did it pay off. However, when combined with the 'point and shoot' ability of the wiimote, well, this was simply sublime. It also included the supremely addictive 'Mercenaries' mode for competitive tantrums among groups of friends. I'll never forget the day we heard that giant chainsaw rev up. It was the first time we'd played that particular level, and ghostwolf was arseing around on top of a tower. The giant chainsaw zombie jumped up behind him, and tore him into two gore covered pieces. The shocked delight reverberated around our student living room as he sat in silence, shaking slightly, his mind slightly undone.
This game SHOULD have paved the way for the Wii to become a legitimate gaming system, rather than the shovelware infested whore it is now. I doubt nintendo care, but I lament the loss of what could have been.
Other things to remember about this game were that it was released for the Wii at £29.99 nobly noting that it WAS a rerelease, and therefore shouldn't cost as much as a new game.
Also notable is the introduction of 'quick time events'. These now infest games everywhere (much to most gamer's chagrin) but at the time they were fresh and novel.

At 4:

Thief 2: The Metal Age.

A grey, cynical protagonist, never bettered in videogame history in my opinion. A novel steampunk medieval setting, arrows that decayed in flight, a great storyline, the best stealth action ever released.

The thinking man's first person shooter, where a wrong choice would lead to your inevitable death. Able to take one enemy in a one on one fight, any more than one, well, you had to hide. Never has patience and planning been more rewarded in an FPS. Also, you know, STEALING as the goal, once you had achieved your loot target, do you escape, or do you get greedy, and go for that well guarded, well lit upstairs master bedroom - Those candlesticks look like solid gold...they'd be worth a fortune in water arrows...

Best moment: Breaking into, and exfiltrating from a huge steampunk bank vault.


At 3:

Freespace 2. The best spacefighting sim ever. Depth up the whazoo, a list of controls longer than war and peace, ensuring you can tinker with weapons loadouts and energy distributions and shield arcs to your hearts content.

A storyline that pitches you into the deep end when you've picked up enough practice, literally impossible missions, medals, black ops, GIANT space ships, and at the time, excellent multiplayer community support.

I still play the single player campaign regularly.


At 2:

World in Conflict

Simply the best RTS ever made.

Graphics that still look stunning. Multiplayer which forces teamwork and requires it. The ability to call in napalm, artillery, chemical strikes, A10 Tankbusters and eventually even tactical nuclear weapons all whilst requiring enough micromanagement to keep twitch players content.

Focussing on manoeuvre and mobility, rather than basebuilding and static positions, this game rewards risks and daring.

A single player campaign with a decent storyline (voiced by Arrec Bawwwdwwiiin himself!) which takes on the task of teaching the player how to use each unit type effectively, as well as tactical aid strikes with a gentle learning curve, in order to prepare the player for his multiplayer career.

Combined with simply the best support a developer has ever given clans and a multiplayer community. If you don't have this game, you're missing out.



The Number 1:

Overall, objectively, I would say System Shock 2 is the best game ever made. Amazing storyline, decent soundtrack, fulfils a few different categories, part fps, part rpg, part horror. Just an all round quality title. I actually felt devastated and almost cried at the critical plot moment. I've never felt more alone in my entire life.

The level of emotional manipulation in this game is deep, on the level of Eternal Darkness, but without some of the gimicry.

This game kind of got slightly lost in the hype that half life was coated with, yet still won a large number of prestigious awards. Deservedly.

I'd gush about it more, but it'd ruin it for anyone who hasn't played it.

But of course, everyone has played the best game of all time haven't you? HAVEN"T YOU?

What are you waiting for?
 

Huung

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Best RPG: Planescape torment, (goddamn I need a copy, used to borrow it off a mate). Runners up: System Shock 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Pokemon: Blue (we all know blue was better than red)

This section alone made me nostalgia. I have the original disc (and game guide) for Planescape Torment, as well as a noCD download from somewhere or other. <3 Old-school RPGs (Nox and Arcanum being other huge faves). I shall do a full list when I have time :p
 
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Gombol

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Thats a fair point actually Gombol, even though my original post was meant to point out that JRPG's suck.

Pokemon was an awsome game though! ....Back when It was the original ones. After the 3rd "Series" where there was like 500 pokemon, It got stupid.
 

BiG D

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The World Ends with You is the only JRPG worth playing. And it's definitely worth playing.
 

Panda with issues...

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Yeah, I have that, I need to play it through some time.

OK guys, lets make this a defining list of the games THNers love. Hopefully it'll get stickied, and we can then use it as a reference list for when we fancy buying a cheap game and getting MORE than our money's worth.
 

Iron_fist

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i can think of some jrpg i'd put on the list, though none of them from this millenium

Legend of Dragoon is one of them, i remember fondly playing that on the old brick PSX back in the day, similar to FF, with a really engaging story, but differences that mean i actually preferred it to FF

also Zelda is also *technically* a jrpg in that case gom
 
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Gombol

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i can think of some jrpg i'd put on the list, though none of them from this millenium

Legend of Dragoon is one of them, i remember fondly playing that on the old brick PSX back in the day, similar to FF, with a really engaging story, but differences that mean i actually preferred it to FF

also Zelda is also *technically* a jrpg in that case gom

Not saying It Isint, IF. ^_^ I never really got into Zelda, so I never paid much attention to it. :p
 

Solemn

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meh.

Best survival horror game was easily Resident evil 2... no 4 =(

also Warcraft 2... another epic classic not in there =)



Legacy of Kain was my all time favourite
 
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Gombol

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meh.

Best survival horror game was easily Resident evil 2... no 4 =(

also Warcraft 2... another epic classic not in there =)



Legacy of Kain was my all time favourite

From what I heard RE4 Was just a shooter with zombies..God knows RE5 was.
 

Ronin Storm

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Y'know, it's a good list, but you're SO WRONG!

:D

Here's a different and "clearly" superior list:

Flight Sim: still waiting for one that inspires me; when it turns up, it'll be set in space, use Newtonian physics and HOTAS controls and feature a Battlestar or two... or perhaps Oids, for a 2D physics-based thrust model, meltable civilians and an excellent map editor

First Person Shooter (Singleplayer): I've played so many it's difficult to keep count, but looking back on them I'm not sure I'd claim any of them made my "best" list... maybe Half Life 2, for being the first FPS I was interested in sufficiently to complete

First Person Shooter (Multiplayer): Action Quake 2, for inspiring everything that came after, pistols akimbo, and making throwing knives a viable but skillful alternative

Third Person Shooter: Max Payne, for bullet time, V trips, and film noire

Point-and-click Adventure: Monkey Island 2, for the spitting puzzle that made me have to think not just choose options at random

Adventure: Fahrenheit (on the Xbox), aka Project Indigo, for multiple perspectives, being a hero, and tactile gaming

Computer RPG: Legends of Valour, for a city with people who actually had basic routines and didn't just stand about waiting for you so you could ask them where they're going then be there when they arrive, then usually mug them for everything they had

Stealth 'Em Up: struggling on this one as I find stealth based shooters to be peculiarly disappointing...

Beat 'Em Up: Tekken 3, for great variety, and Street Fighter 2, for Ken versus Ryu fireball battles

Puzzler: I generally don't rate puzzle games as I tend to only play them for 15-20 minutes at a run and then only to blank my forebrain so I can hindbrain something...

Survival Horror: Resident Evil 4, for making a game with zombies sufficiently enticing to get me to complete it, despite being terrified of zombies

Real Time Strategy (Singleplayer): Dune 2, for showing the way for all RTS to follow

Real Time Strategy (Multiplayer): Starcraft, when played at a LAN without any Koreans, for shared bases, balanced play, and nuclear missiles

Turn Based Strategy: UFO: Enemy Unknown, for a terrifying threat and blaster bomb launchers, and Lords of Chaos (Amiga version), for pitting dragons against unicorns and making hiding in a corner a valid tactical choice

Racing: Super Cars 2, for including oil slicks, rockets and homing missiles into a genre I tend to find boring, and Blur, for being a bit like Super Cars 2 just in 3D

Cooperative Multiplayer (any genre): Alien Swarm (UT2004 mod), for moments such as when Deep Qantas waded back through the swarm to rescue me and Rojaws (he's my hero) and being my sole reason to buy UT2004 in the first place

Competitive Multiplayer (any genre): what to pick, oh what to pick... probably Battlefield 2 before the release of Special Forces, for squad mechanics and commander mode, all somewhat spoiled by bunnies and dolphins

Music / Rhythm: Guitar Hero 2, for Sweet Child O' Mine as an encore, and Rock Band 2, for being better than RB1 and still keeping the whole choose your own playlist thing

Sandbox: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, for the ability to ride motorcycles into lamp posts at very high speed while listening to classic 80's pop music

Sports: Sensible Soccer, for making a football game actually fun

Arcade: Missile Command, for strategic thinking and quick reaction without any crap escalation mechanics, and Crack Down (the 1989 Sega release), for top down two player cooperative gaming

My top 5 is a difficult list as I often find that I get bored by games as I start to see through the mechanics. Thus, the games I've completed have either held themselves up on stories that dragged me along, or were sufficiently short that I didn't get chance to see through them.

As a result, I'm just going to list my top 2 and then muse and see if anything else comes up:

Number 2: Max Payne, for showing me the end at the beginning but keeping the "why" from me 'til the very end

Number 1: Fahrenheit, for making me feel like I was the last line of defence against the end of the world, and then letting me live up to the challenge
 

Solemn

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Number 1: Fahrenheit, for making me feel like I was the last line of defence against the end of the world, and then letting me live up to the challenge


God, I absolutely loved that game... Heavy Rain didn't even come close to living up to this =( makes me sad really....
 

Ronin Storm

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God, I absolutely loved that game... Heavy Rain didn't even come close to living up to this =( makes me sad really....

Heavy Rain missed three things for me:

  1. The controls weren't as tactile
  2. The characters were less likeable
  3. The story lacked the "save the girl, save the world" aspect

In terms of innovative design, I felt it really showed that. It just didn't make me sing in the way Fahrenheit did. By the end of Fahrenheit I was all like "hey, y'know, live or die I'm doing this anyway". By the end of Heavy Rain I was all like, "if I run at this, the pain will be over faster".

I supposed they had a more character oriented story. Just much more depressing. :p
 

Ronin Storm

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Oh man, just realised that I do have a good puzzler for the list.

Puzzler: Portal, for making a puzzle game have a story by stealth and an incredible wish to live when faced with imminent destruction
 

Tetsuo_Shima

In Cryo Sleep
Flight Sim: Final Fantasy IX

First Person Shooter (Singleplayer): Final Fantasy IX

First Person Shooter (Multiplayer): Final Fantasy IX

Third Person Shooter: Final Fantasy IX

Point-and-click Adventure: Final Fantasy IX

Adventure: Final Fantasy IX

Computer RPG: Final Fantasy IX

Stealth 'Em Up: Final Fantasy IX

Beat 'Em Up: Final Fantasy IX

Puzzler: Final Fantasy IX

Survival Horror: Final Fantasy IX

Real Time Strategy (Singleplayer): Final Fantasy IX

Real Time Strategy (Multiplayer): Final Fantasy IX

Turn Based Strategy: Final Fantasy IX

Racing: Final Fantasy IX

Cooperative Multiplayer (any genre): Final Fantasy IX

Competitive Multiplayer (any genre): Final Fantasy IX

Music / Rhythm: Final Fantasy IX

Sandbox: Final Fantasy IX

Sports: Final Fantasy IX

Arcade: Final Fantasy IX

It was extremely difficult to choose a top 5 out of all the glorious games I've experienced, but I gave it a go:

Number 5: Final Fantasy IX

Number 4: Final Fantasy IX

Number 3: Final Fantasy IX

Number 2: Final Fantasy IX

Number 1: Final Fantasy IX
 
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