EA, Origin, BF3 Amazon reviews

Silk

Well-Known Member
OK, so I know everyone (me included) hates EA, and possibly Origin, and their questionable EULA. But I stood up for myself on the amazon review site because I think it's downright wrong to use it as a protest site and skew the score of a game to be 1/5 stars without even bothering to review the game itself.

Oh and so far I think BF3 is awesome and deserved someone to stick up for it.

Topic is here if anyone wants to read or join in.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2HULJG0FOFO2C
 

Ghostwolf67

Well-Known Member
From the amazon discussion I get the feeling that the people voting down are doing so solely based on the privacy discussion. Which TBH fair enough. We've all voiced that this is a crap dream turned into a real nightmare in probably alot more or alot less words. It comes down really to a simple question "is a game equal to the sum of ALL of its parts" Can you/should you judge bf3 as a whole entity (terrible frontend and privacy issues withstanding) or just the part where you play and shoot ppl?

I dont think EA have done themselves many favours with the implementation of bf3. Timing it for the half term release window held already by batman (the hero of nerds everywhere) and only a stones throw from MW3 release (the hero of xbox players, twitch gamers, 12 yr olds and douchebags everywhere) didnt help. All this crap about EULA, origin and general bad design choices for the front end (on pc, though i have it on good authority from people at work that the x-box search function wont find any games if you have more than 2 friends with you in the same search.) have compounded this into a generally dense killing shot.

A few more negatives I experienced in my first few games.

1. Its not as 'pick up and play' as its peers are in my humble opinion, in my first few games 50% of both teams were zero kills for A LOT of deaths which instantly black lists it for the lower ages whose attention span cant tolerate that kind of learning curve.

2. It rewards teamwork heavily, which for thn is a real blessing but for the less co-operativly minded, going solo the game holds alot less enjoyment and alot more frustration.

3. Non hardcore mode is a joke and not a very funny one either. With starting assault/engineer weapons it was a 5/6 shot average to get a kill on an enemy at close distance. When that little X flashes up that many times only to result in nothing you wonder why you are even bothering. It also answered my first question when playing which was 'why is everyone shooting with rocket launchers and not guns?'

Dispite what i may have just vented in a text wall of doom I do like the game (and i will say that i'm not in the least surprised that u do as well silk) but only after 20+ hours of play. There are a lot of downsides here some people arent, or downright refuse to put the effort in to get past them.
 

Panda with issues...

Well-Known Member
I kind of view this a bit like casual sex by dumb people.

If you are dumb, and sleep around carelessly, yeah, you might have some good sex, but you may catch an STD.

If you solely reviewed the sex, it would come off looking great, but people will then be unaware of the unsanitary, puss-dripping, weeping festering sores that you caught on your genitals.

If people are using AMAZON REVIEWS to decide if they are going to buy a computer games, they are likely people who are unaware of the 'baggage' that comes with this new Battlefield title, the STD-like effects of origin, and battlelog, and I don't see anyone complaining about people telling teenagers to rubber up.

All they are doing is giving people who otherwise have no idea a fair warning.

In a way, these reviews are negative advertising. Advertising only works on people with weak willpower. Anyone who isn't an idiot can extract anything of use from advertising to make their own decision whether to buy the product or not. Just like they can with these reviews.
 

Ki!ler-Mk1

Active Member
So what you're saying is intelligent people dont have (Casual) sex, that explains a lot about our society.
 

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
I hate battlelog, other than that I'm enjoying the playing bit of the game.

I actually disagree with carps, I think the health is pretty correct. I have to stick some rounds into someone but I don't have to be slow arse crawling everywhere as with a quick reflex I have a chance against someone how has seen me first.

Played hc and disliked it immensely, I may be realistic but that's not what I play battlefield for.

As with all BF games I'm much preferring 32 player servers to 64 player but will probably find I will enjoy 64 player once I am a little less rusty.

For me I'm having to ignore the battlelog/origin aspect as it it awful and I'm yet to hear any argument for how doing it this way is better than an in game browser. I'm also hating the fact that I can't access menus such as squad menus during kill cams and at the end of the rounds. These times when I'm not playing are where I want to tinker with settings, once I'm able to spawn again that's what I want to be doing. The unskippable kill cams are just gash.

For me it comes down to this. No I'm not enjoying it as much as I did 2142 but then it doesn't have any walkers so that was inevitable. But once I actually get on a server it is standing up pretty well for itself.
 

Traxata

Junior Administrator
I hate battlelog, other than that I'm enjoying the playing bit of the game.

I actually disagree with carps, I think the health is pretty correct. I have to stick some rounds into someone but I don't have to be slow arse crawling everywhere as with a quick reflex I have a chance against someone how has seen me first.

Played hc and disliked it immensely, I may be realistic but that's not what I play battlefield for.

As with all BF games I'm much preferring 32 player servers to 64 player but will probably find I will enjoy 64 player once I am a little less rusty.

For me I'm having to ignore the battlelog/origin aspect as it it awful and I'm yet to hear any argument for how doing it this way is better than an in game browser. I'm also hating the fact that I can't access menus such as squad menus during kill cams and at the end of the rounds. These times when I'm not playing are where I want to tinker with settings, once I'm able to spawn again that's what I want to be doing. The unskippable kill cams are just gash.

For me it comes down to this. No I'm not enjoying it as much as I did 2142 but then it doesn't have any walkers so that was inevitable. But once I actually get on a server it is standing up pretty well for itself.
we totally need BF 2143 :-( with destroyable buildings..... Wooooooo!
 

Kasatka

Active Member
Only way i have EVER gotten anything from EA was by phoning up some obscure customer support number and kicking up a fuss that theyd stolen my money... Nice lady refunded me and apologized profusely.
 

AcidK

New Member
In all honesty the only way to deal with EA when they do dumb things is not to use online communication and instead kick up a fuss with a letter or phonecall. A call is usually quicker, but a letter with demands and with something along the lines of 'if this is not sorted within x days/weeks I will take this further and seek legal action'. You'd be surprised how many times that bluff works.
 

Kasatka

Active Member
In all honesty the only way to deal with EA when they do dumb things is not to use online communication and instead kick up a fuss with a letter or phonecall. A call is usually quicker, but a letter with demands and with something along the lines of 'if this is not sorted within x days/weeks I will take this further and seek legal action'. You'd be surprised how many times that bluff works.

Totally agreed - until digital communication is properly monitored and controlled (by this i mean not trying to apply outdated laws to the internet) it won't be treated with the same gravity.

My current policy is to not buy anything EA publish. The only game this makes me vaguely sad about is Mass Effect 3, which ill just get second hand on PS3 and so not a penny will go to EA.
 

Traxata

Junior Administrator
Totally agreed - until digital communication is properly monitored and controlled (by this i mean not trying to apply outdated laws to the internet) it won't be treated with the same gravity.

My current policy is to not buy anything EA publish. The only game this makes me vaguely sad about is Mass Effect 3, which ill just get second hand on PS3 and so not a penny will go to EA.
waits for Kat to buy SW:TOR :rolleyes:
 
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