England and the UEFA Euro 2008 Cup
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waterproofbob
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Failed indeed. I don't why football is still considered the national sport when we are clearly rubbish at it and are doing quite well in a lot of other sports.
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Gombol
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it was ever accually a national sport? teh US didnt play it...they play "Soccer".
Macca
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National, as in national to the nation of Great Britain. When you bring the US into it then it's international. As in inter - (among) national (nations).
English lesson finished for today
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Gombol
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i saw the word lesson then zoned out!
but yeah...fair enough...but the whole world plays football...E.G. world cup, then the americans stay out and pretend they are good by makng their own verions of football up...
but yeah...fair enough...but the whole world plays football...E.G. world cup, then the americans stay out and pretend they are good by makng their own verions of football up...
waterproofbob
Junior Administrator
OK well the US do now play football, in fact it is becoming hugely popular over there these days. American football is very much a sport onto itself, it is a combination of rugby and football that were both brought over to America by brits. As the FA only layed down the first concrete rules of football in 1865 I think and then the US had it unified code for American football in 1868/9 there really wasn't much in it. What we discern as football spread further due to our farther reach due mostly to the empire at the time is the main reason the world plays more football than the US variety.
Anyway that's mostly irrelevant to this discussion.
The problem is not the lack of world class players, to say we don't have enough of those is daft we have plenty of top class international players all of whom play for the best 4 clubs in the best league in the world. The problem lies in these players ability to play together. The best example of this being the Lampard Gerrard conundrum. Both top class players who can't play together as they play such a similar style of football. Gerrard is better in my opinion and if it were up to me I'd bench lampard. The problem is also that the managers don't stick with tactics that work and keep playing around with the team. Given injuries don't help this scenario but when you put out a 442 that worked as well as ours seemed to be doing about a month back then you stick with it. Then as happened they lost the 2 strikers who had they been playing would have changed the game a lot, but they had a 6'9 striker with wright-philips as a supply. I personally believe beckham is pretty much past it, but he is still one of the best crosser of the ball the game has ever seen so do they start him to supply the tallest freak in the world of course they don't.
There's nothing lacking in the English talent, nothing at all. All it takes is for someone to sit and make the blindingly obvious calls. If 2 players don't bound well together don't bloody play em together. I completely disagree with bloke on the point of quantity of world class players playing top league football. The fact that we have 3 England premiership goalies all of whom are capable of international standard football.. I feel so sorry for Scott Carson because who in their right mind plays as his first inter. cap plays 22yr old nervous wreck on the biggest match of the year with a half broken defence. Carson is a great keeper and if that match now stops a international career for him then I'm going to go poo in steve's hat.
I could continue my rant about the managerial side of English football but I got better things to be doing.
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Gombol
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waterproofbob
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there's no difference, they obviously call it soccer as for them they had established leagues for there derivative of football long before they started playing any form of professional soccer. I don't see how there's a difference they are playing the same sport by the same rules and when they play with other countries who refer to it as football then they do so but it would be all kinds of confusing to refer to football as football in the US. I don't really see your point. To be technically correct it is actually Association football anyway, we call it just football to make our lives simpler and the American and a lot of other countries around the world refer to it as soccer, they are not alone in calling it soccer.
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Gombol
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I thought Soccer had slightly different rules then football?
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elDiablo
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No, soccer is the American name for football. That's the only difference WikiKnowItAll.
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waterproofbob
Junior Administrator
Hey wow, I'm now very happy with my unhealthy knowledge of sport. I knew the date for the setup of the FA within about 5 years. Hazaaa go bob.
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Gombol
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fair enough.