Facebook vs the rest of the world

BiG D

BiG D

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I've never really been a fan of FB or similar sites because of the issues with who might be viewing the information and what judgments they're going to make. The fact that they're claiming the right to use (or abuse) anything you post (or delete) as they see fit is just another reason to steer clear.

PsiSoldier28 said:
All I can say is: Hahahaha!
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Then you really don't need to be posting in the soap box.
 
Haven

Haven

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Bradstreet said:
Kind of glad I took myself off facebook and didn't put anything personal up there in my brief stint of social networking... 'Extraordinarily grabby and arrogant' seems about right.

Of course, I haven't checked the havennet ToS. Do Ronin Storm and Haven now own our souls?
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We're very good with our ToS, we only sell your details for maximum profits and we stick to russia and china for our contacts.

Alternatively if we could remember where we left that laptop with all the unencrypted details on it then we'd sell them ...

*checks behind the sofa again*
 
Ronin Storm

Ronin Storm

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Rebellion in the ranks has sparked a (temporary?) return to the previous Terms of Service (source: BBC News)

BBC News said:
Originally defending the changes, Mr Zuckerberg had said it was to better reflect how people used the site.

He had said the changes were made to ensure that if a user deleted his or her account any comments or messages he or she had left on a friend's Facebook page would not also disappear.
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Hmm, actually, I disagree with them here. This, to me, means they need to support two states of account shut-down: account closed and account deleted. In account closed, all the articles that person has posted go into a "hidden" mode and perhaps are even deleted, but their comments on other articles remain. After account deletion, however, everything is nuked, comments and all. "Closed" should mean "look, I'm done, but it was good" and "deleted" should mean "... and I'm never coming back".

That said, I don't think I've ever really understood blogging, nevermind blogging on such a scale as Facebook. Why would I want to post about personal things in a public space? I can understand blogging when it's used more as a service for publishing articles or for describing policy, but as a diary... surely there's a reason that diaries were traditionally private and even secret places for writing one's thoughts?
 
thatbloke

thatbloke

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I use facebook as a tool to keep in touch with some of my friends that now live hundreds of miles around the country - if I put something on there then I expect that that will be viewable by anyone who has internet access, and as such only ever put anything on facebook that i would want to be publicly viewable to the whole world....
 
waterproofbob

waterproofbob

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I only use facebook to keep in contact with a few mates who are abroad and primarily to play Tetris. There's not a lot of stuff about me on there, however I do think that this is seriously off. I've got a lot of friends who post a lot of videos and other media and where these may end up does concern me on their behalf.
Most things like this don't normally phase me but this is fairly stupid.
 
Ronin Storm

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decky101

decky101

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I have never been inclined to use FB as Bebo has always been the more popular one for my year and as such, I have me one of those, but to be truthful, there isn't really that much about me on mine, and I possess a private profile, meaning only people on my friends list can view my profile page, but the way I see it is when people are flippant/naive enough to put their details up for everyone to see need some sort of wake up call or some education about the risks of doing such things (however blindingly obvious the risks may be to the average person, there's always a few who aren't aware of said risks)
 
Bradstreet

Bradstreet

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Ronin Storm said:
This, to me, means they need to support two states of account shut-down: account closed and account deleted. In account closed, all the articles that person has posted go into a "hidden" mode and perhaps are even deleted, but their comments on other articles remain. After account deletion, however, everything is nuked, comments and all. "Closed" should mean "look, I'm done, but it was good" and "deleted" should mean "... and I'm never coming back".
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I was horrified when I tried to close my Facebook account since it didn't give the option to actually delete it. It just says your account has been closed, and that to reopen it you should re-register with your existing username and password. So, I guess your profile gets hidden (and mine was already under a fake name and on the highest privacy settings), but nothing gets taken away. It's kind of terrifying, both because the information is still stored but also because it's a refusal to recognise your choices as valid. And I worry that my students really don't understand how much of their information they're broadcasting; that every time they download another application, they're opening themselves up to yet another third-party provider; and the legal status of publishing information online (stuff that it's safe to vent about in the pub can become actionable once you write it down). Oh brave new world...
 
Gizmo-5

Gizmo-5

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Ha haha ha ha ha hardy ha

I love how american corporations think they can write out european civil rights in their package contracts.

It honestly dosen't fly here, so if your in europe you really have nothing to worry about. And if something nasty did happen (say, they sold your blog posts to the guardian after a massive scandal! :O) you could sue them for squillions. Hell you could probably take them to court now and win.

Its the same with most Eulas, case in point check the microsoft (office?) case where they got bummed by the european courts because they stated that by opening their package you agreed to their terms.

Rofl to arrogant american suits who devise this stupid legalese
 
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