[Tech] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

[Wol]

Right.

My desktop:
160GB sata hard drive - want XP on this
320GB sata hard drive - want Windows 7 on this
1TB sata hard drive - this has data on it

all happy

Motherboard - gigabyte..... thingy. Has 4 sata ports on it, and an IDE channel.

so I get

IDE 0 master - none
IDE 0 slave - none
IDE 2 = 160gb
IDE 3 = 320gb
IDE 4 = 1tb
IDE 5 = dvd drive

The boot order is the same as listed there, so it boots off XP first.

this is all happy..... until I put an IDE hard drive in.

so:

IDE 0 master - IDE hard drive

Boot order is the same, with the new IDE hard drive at the bottom of the list out of the way.

And XP now doesnt boot. All I get is 3 pink single character sized boxes on top of the POST screen, and 2 red ones. doesn't boot.

I can disable IDE in the bios, but that doesnt help. Boot order is: cd rom, hard drive, disabled, and the boot order of hard drives is as above.


So now what?

thanks in advance!

 

[Wol]

And when i try and install XP the list of drives is:

disk 0
disk 0
disk 0
disk 0

shouldnt these numbers increment? hmmm

 

[SwampFae]

[Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

Just woke up, but. Does your IDE-type HDD have a set of pins in the back? (Apart from power/data cable)
Master, Slave, Cable Select, etc
There should be a config jumper cap there, covering two pins (The pins can be found right-side of the HDD/Cd/DvD drive)
Also: 'Tis common that CD/DvD drives(internal ones) tend to have these pins in the back as well.

Primary:
Slave
IDE0(Boot) - Master

This is the HDD configured as Primary-Master. A.K.A: The Boot Drive. (The Master HDD on the Primary IDE Cable)

Secondary: (Usually CD/DvD drives):
IDE1 - Master
Slave

S-ATA do not usually require this type of configuration, considering that it is only possible to connect one S-ATA drvice to each S-ATA slot on the motherboard.
Each Serial-ATA device is essentially 'master' on each Serial-ATA channel.


Hope this was of some help.
Added note: If your CD/DvD and HDD are on the same cable, two Primary Masters on that cable is baaad (Made that mistake once )

 

[Wol]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

The IDE hdd made very little diff whether i had it configged as slave / master, or cable select when i had it on slave or master.

CD drive is sata - so cant put HDD and that on the same cable..... without some dubious wire stripping.

The problem is that I want the IDE2 channel master to be the boot device, not the IDE0 master to be the boot device.

Somewhere last night,windows did some scary shit and swapped around the C drive and E drive (sata + ide), so that it didnt reboot this morning. Had to go into the windows 7 recovery mode to diskpart the drive letters back again.

it should be:

IDE0 - H: (scratch)
IDE2 - C: (boot)
IDE3 - D: (apps)
IDE4 - E: (data)
IDE5 - F: (dvd drive)

but somewhere, it tripped over itself and swapped the first two around, thus trying to boot off the wrong drive completely.

 

[Iron_fist]

personally i'd say strip down to the minimum required to boot (IDE 2 by the looks of it) get all the windows partitions booting, then slowly add the drives to each of the OS making sure the boot order in the BIOS is correct at each point.
slow and steady wins the race!

 

[Wol]

Thats the problem I had the first time around. If i installed it without any other drives in, as soon as I put the IDE one in, it wouldn't boot, even if the IDE one had been formatted, which is why I ended up installing when I had the drive in. For some reason, there still are some boot files on the IDE drive, but im just going to leave those for the time being.

Shall persevere!

 

[Haven]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

Even if window swaps drive letters around all you do is select boot disk priority in your bios to fix that

 

[Wol]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

Even if window swaps drive letters around all you do is select boot disk priority in your bios to fix that

It was putting the disk I had at the bottom of the boot disk priority list, as disk C:......

 

[Haven]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

"C:" is just a label this means nothing

Boot priority in the BIOS is what you need to get right.

 

[Wol]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

"C:" is just a label this means nothing

Boot priority in the BIOS is what you need to get right.

I know - Ive got the hard drive which i told windows to install on, at the top of the list. The hard drive which it likes swapping for C is at the bottom. Not sure if windows has little hissy fits and goes "Its on IDE 0, therefore it must be on C:" every so often.

It seems to be stable once i get it up and running anyway, so hopefully i wont have to restart too many times

 

[waterproofbob]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

tbh, just leave your machine on all weekend solves the problem for i40 at least .

 

[Wol]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

tbh, just leave your machine on all weekend solves the problem for i40 at least .

thats the plan

 

[BiG D]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

Now that I think about this, I had similar issues on my old XP machine. The cause there was one of the drives about to die...

 

[Wol]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

Now that I think about this, I had similar issues on my old XP machine. The cause there was one of the drives about to die...

well if it does, I've got my windows 7 (well, 2 of them) reinstall disks!

 

[BiG D]

Re: [Response] IDE and SATA hard drive problem

I wouldn't worry too much about that. The drive in question still hasn't died