Lvl 60 vs the rest ... the problem

Haven

Administrator
Staff member
Morning All

A few of you will have sensed this already, but for the rest of you this should prove interesting and hopefully we can nip this one in the bud now. We've recently lost a few level 60 players from the WoW guild, having spoken to a couple of them as well as hearing rumours it appears that they are tired of being asked to help lower levels all the time - once most people reach level 60 they are eligable for raid instances and various other 'cool' things i.e. grinding for their epic kit to allow them to attend said instances. Unsurprisingly this is what they really want to be doing although a few will also take time out to help lower levels advance.

Well I guess if we are putting enough strain on the level 60's that they are feeling its better to move on rather than put with it then we need to change the ammount we ask of them so that the game remains fun and they stay with the guild (this is supposed to be fun remember!).

Given the above information, if you do get helped out by someone (level 60 or otherwise) then please make sure you thank them, also don't take it for granted that if they help you one time that they will automatically be availble to help you whenever you are online. Finally, please please do not nag or whine when people are unavailable or when something is particularly hard. I've done this myself and its an easy habit to fall into especially if it gets a response and you get help - its not the way forward and ultimately it will piss people off.

To help avoid all of the above can you please get into the habit of organising what you need help with (research it on thotbott or whatever site you use beforehand) and post up a request for help on the forums (in its OWN thread) along with details and links of what the aim is.

We should also get into the habit of using the forums to organise specific events at specific times so that we get out of the ad-hoc process we are getting into right now. Make sure you organise things at least 48 hours in advance and be prepared to start on time and turn away those who are late i.e. have reserves ready to fill the gaps. Make sure to add the event to the in-game calendar and the forums calenadar as well (as for assistance if you do not know how).

Lets do this and make the game smoother and more fun for everyone.

Finally, on a happy note we have grown massively in the last few weeks with lots of new members. Make sure to make the new people welcome (lets avoid cliques) and get them on teamspeak and xfire if possible. Also if you've been helped out by higher level players then be sure to return the favour to lower level and new players to show them how friendly we are.
 

SgtFury

Junior Administrator
Staff member
I understand where this is coming from and I think there is another problem that needs to be addressed for the the guild members that didn't come from THN originally. That is the website. I am not trying to make work but I was wondering wether it would be worthwhile or possible to have a entry into the Wow forums that was THN wow only?

Again I know this might be a bit of trouble but at the moment I think it might help newer people into THN via the guild.

Now we may not be able to do this until we have a new server sorted out but I was thinking about the gallery and stuff we had and wether we could have a wow.thehavennet.org.uk and then have other stuff on that page with a link to sign up to the wow forums specifically here.

Just thoughts really may not go here but thought I would add them.
 

Haven

Administrator
Staff member
Well thats another site requiring another set of admins/mods if its user editable i.e. forums/wiki etc so it is more work. If its just an easier to remember url you are after then I can easily create a redirect from:

wow.thehavennet.org.uk => games.thehavennet.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=13

But its a hack :) I know we haven't got the admin resources to do much more than this right now - that may change in the future but for now its going to be very hard to implement (and justify) a seperate site just for wow. If you get the time then put toegether some ideas and mail them off to the development mailing list and we'll see what can be done.
 

Loki

In Cryo Sleep
Does the forum have to be set up to be accessible only if you have signed up to a wow usergroup? Is there anyway to have it that, any invitees can come straight to the page and browse?

And just to clarify, my post yesterday wasn't to berate people. But rather to make instancing a more successful and smoother run venture.
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
Loki said:
Is there anyway to have it that, any invitees can come straight to the page and browse?

One of the things on my list is to provide a tick box at registration time saying "I'm here for the WoW stuff" and they'd automatically get signed into the WoW usergroup.

The other thing I want to do is find a way of converting the categories (Shooters, RPGs, etc) into a form that doesn't allow posting in the category but does allow the last post to cascade up to the top level, as with The Chat Box and LinkHive.

It's all development time, though... and I tend to find that type of time hard to come by.
 
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