[Tech] Question about installing RAM

Taffy

New Member
I'm thinking of buying me some more RAM... this one to be precise. Firstly though, what would the benefits be? Would start-up time be quicker, and would games load/run faster?

I'm also unsure how to install it, so I thought I would ask before I buy. Is it 'plug-and-play' or a bit more complicated than that? If it is, how do I do it?

Help would be greatly appreciated :)
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
Installing RAM is straight-forward but there are a few things to watch for:

  • Is this the right RAM for your motherboard? (check your motherboard manual)
  • Do you have sufficient free slots in your motherboard for both sticks in that kit? (2 or 3 sticks is a common maximum per system)
  • Will your operating system allow you to access all the memory your have after installing those sticks? (3GB is a common limit)

It is basically plug and play but there are optimisations to be had. Broadly, though, if you're on WinXP and can get 1.5GB of RAM or more in total then you'll tend to see an improvement overall. How much of an improvement depends on what slots they're put in, the quality and speed of the RAM (in this case, not high) and your motherboard.

In short, more memory "always" helps. Mostly be sure it'll fit as there are different types.
 

Dragon

Well-Known Member
And be careful not to mix different RAM types. If you do you may run across the problem that only one RAM will be detected.
 

Taffy

New Member
What are the different RAM types, like DDR and DDR2?

Ronin, how would I know whether it is the correct type for my motherboard, as I don't have amotherboard manual that I know of.
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
Do you know what motherboard you have? If so, post make and model here and we'll find the details for you.
 
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elDiablo

Guest
Go here, use the 3 step drop down boxes, and the site will tell you everything you need to know about what RAM you can and can not install. Then you can shop around for the right price! :)
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
oh fuck that. apparently vbulletin cant open peoples profiles in new tabs, so consequently lost my post, so now I cant be arsed to write it out in full again.

Basically you have different parameters you need to match with your current system. e.g. you get diff speeds of DDR2, with diff CAS latencies etc....

Also, Crucial has a fun download which scans your system to tell you exactly what you can put in (e.g. dell systems can usually come with a user selected amount of ram to start with), and how much it'll cost from their site to buy the ram. I've used them before for my laptop ram, cos its quite cheap.
 

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
The benefits or more RAM are very dependant on what you have at the moment, also different mobos are more/less picky about you getting exaclty matching pairs and what have you. It is general a good plan to get all the exact same speed RAM, although not necessarily a necessity. RAM is a piece of piss to fit. Your mobo will likely have 4 slots in it unless it is really getting long in the tooth. Depending on the board you may have to get matched pairs. If you currently only have one stick then it is obviously happy with just the one.

Unless the machine is new and shiny it will either be DDR or DDR2 you are looking at.
 

PsiSoldier

Well-Known Member
  • Will your operating system allow you to access all the memory your have after installing those sticks? (3GB is a common limit)
Just to build on this, 32bit Windows -usually*- has a limit of 4GB and 64bit is 8, however that's memory in total, so GPU memory and the like takes some of that allowed memory.

*Different OS packages may have slightly differing limits, IE Vista starter 32bit has 1GB. Windows XP Starter is 512MB.

XP
Vista
CPU-Z



Basically to install ram:


-Use CPU-Z or similar to identify your current RAM, go to the 'SPD' tab and note the type (Directly right of the Slot # drop-down) and Max Bandwidth - DDR, PC3200 (200mhz) for me (Yes yes, old ram.)
If it says DDR and 200mhz then it's actual speed is 400, double data rate
If it says DDR2 and 200mhz, then it's actual speed is 800, double and double again.
If it says DDR3 and 200mhz, then it's actual speed is 1600, double double double!
So I would want a 1GB DDR 400 module

-Find a suitable module/kit to go with it, so same type (DDR, DDR2, DDR3) speed (Going by PCxxxx is the safest and easiest way) and maybe same size - someone confirm whether this actually has any effect?

-Unplug everything from your case, and let it sit for a while if it's been on before hand to cool down and shizzle.

-Ground yourself - If you don't have a wrist strap/matt or something that plugs into the grounding socket with the 3 pronged plugs, then make sure your always touching your case or making contact with a bare radiator pipe (Not sure if those 2 actually work, but I read about them online :D), mainly make sure you don't wear a gimp suit or nylon chav suit, they are terrible for static (I hear)!

-Open the case (If you screw up here you're better off getting an expert to install the ram :D)

-Put the module into a spare slot and press firmly untill it clicks in, if you have colour-coded slots, put the new ram in the same colour slot as the old ram (Can't remember the name of what it is but it works better, trust me.), if they're all the same just put it in the next along.
The way round it should be is indicated by a groove just off centre in the module, allign it with the 'tooth' on the slot

-Lock the module in place with the arm-locky things, or whatever your mobo uses (Spring loaded plastic pole in the case of my other pc)

-Boot OS (Probably best to do this before putting the side back on, to avoid extra work if there's problems and you gotta take it off again!)
Check you didn't leave any tools or the family pet inside the case before you boot it!

-Memtest or something to check for faults, or if you're lazy just use your pc as normal, anything odd happens that didn't happen before the new RAM was installed, chances are something's wrong with it or you did something wrong :).



PS - it's 3:15AM, so there's bound to be a mistake somewhere here. Point it out instead of mocking me over it kthx. (Also I'm no PC expert, just a gaming enthusiast taking an IT course in college, so yeah...)
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
slightly OT as it seems the original question has been answered quite well, how the hell dya fit 128GB (or more!) in a case?! Lots of slots, or big sticks of ram?
 

Zooggy

Junior Administrator
Staff member
Hoy, :)

theoretically a 64bit OS can do even more than that

Well, theoretically, 64-bit systems can address roughly 18.4 Eb. (That's exabytes, roughly 18 million terabytes...)

Architectural considerations can reduce this, somewhat... :)

Cheers,
J.
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
slightly OT as it seems the original question has been answered quite well, how the hell dya fit 128GB (or more!) in a case?! Lots of slots, or big sticks of ram?

I think it's a question of memory address space, remembering that the technology we call RAM is only one implementation of memory and there are others that could fulfil this same need (e.g. solid state memory). Big sticks of RAM might be one way to go but I can imagine installing memory "packs" in the same way we currently install hard drives and have those packs as extremely large amounts of RAM.
 
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