Sign-ups, Monday/Tuesday raids, and people's concerns

Windzarko

Well-Known Member
Hurrah, multi-faceted thread time! I'll try to keep it brief (for once).

First up, Sign-ups! For those that have managed to not notice at all, we are using the in-game calendar for all sign-ups now. Whilst the method may vary (sometimes you get invited and have to choose Accept, Decline, Tentative, etc, and sometimes it's an event you have to actively sign up to), the end result will be the same; Trial Raiders and up who are currently active need to respond to each progression raid sign-up, even if only to say no. If you don't sign up, don't expect a spot. If you sign up as a yes, then be there on time! Nice and simple stuff. If we get too many people continuing to not turn up when they've signed as a yes, then those people might find themselves not exactly being top of the list for getting taken when they do bother to show up. If you're genuinely not sure, Tentative is there for a reason!

Second up, Monday/Tuesday raids. Elincia has volunteered to try get these going, and the intent is that they be a second raid group rather than a continuation of the Thursday/Friday progression raiding. Where possible we will try and only use Trial Raiders and up with their main characters and main specs, but until we get more people of certain roles geared up and ready, off-specs and alts will likely be needed to fill in the gaps. People who have characters available and can be around on those days, please do sign up. And most importantly; if you sign up, TURN UP! Last time there were only seven people online, most of whom weren't the ones that had signed as yes for the event; just because it's not the Thursday/Friday raid doesn't mean you can not give a toss when you've said you'd be there.


Finally, I know that some people have had concerns and problems with the way things are being done now. I know it's different, and I can understand that if anyone has misinterpreted or misunderstood some of the changes we've made that it could cause a lot of worry and concern. We don't want people to be scared that we're going "super hardcore", or that we're just taking the fabled "A-Team" only (I genuinely am starting to loathe that phrase, it gets slung around far too much for no real reason). The only people who should have any real cause for concern are those that cannot be bothered to learn to play their class and pull their weight in raids.

We're not asking that you be half-epic and outputting 20k DPS before we take you! We're asking that you be mostly heroic-geared (item level 346 or better gear from heroics, reputation, justice/valor points, crafting; all are easy to get your hands on, and having one or two 333 pieces is perfectly fine!), that you know how your class works and which buttons to mash, that you know that standing in fire is probably not the best idea, and that you can turn up on time. That's basically it. Yes, we might sometimes specifically take a stronger group to break a more vicious progression barrier if it's been giving us a harder time than normal, but unless we have to do that to make headway, then we'll try and vary who we take, try and give everyone a fair chance. Being a Veteran and up, or being in (or formerly in) Lincoln doesn't mean you automatically get a raid spot, so all you Raiders and Trials can calm down; if you DO get left out a lot, then ask one of us if there's a reason for it. It should hopefully just be simple oversight or that you're genuinely not ready and we don't want to put you in a situation where there are unfair expectations of what you should do.

As a last note (and I hope that I'm not going to regret this); if people have any serious concerns, PM me on the forums or whisper me in-game. Where possible, I'll try and explain and/or sort something out. This does not, however, mean that you can spam me with messages if you don't get a raid spot one week, and I won't tolerate anyone getting snappy or snarky with me. If there's a problem or you have a concern, I'm here to talk to if it'll be a friendly talk.


...why do posts always end up longer than I intended?
 

Zooggy

Junior Administrator
Staff member
Hoy, :)

Here, here!

And to add to that:

if people have any serious concerns, PM me on the forums

I'd like to add that this is valid for me as well. If any of you has any problem and you need or want an advocate, I'll take your concerns up to the raid leadership or the guild officers and advocate your side to the best of my ability.

Cheers,
J.
 

Elincia

New Member
I would like to stress out that if you sign up as accepted you do show up!
We manage to do a raid tonight, but it wasn't easy. And with different people we had a different raid and we might have killed a boss :P

(I suck as raidleader)
 

Windzarko

Well-Known Member
(I suck as raidleader)

Lies.

And yes, people should show if they signed as yes. This isn't some staggeringly difficult philosophical concept to grasp, and short of a really good and important RL reason causing problems before you can change your signup, not showing up after signing yes is basically selfish and thoughtless to the people who want to be in the group and the people organising it you cause problems by that absence.

Also, since I've received no PMs and there've been MANY views to this thread but no replies (bar Elincia's and Zooggy's, of course), I'm going to only give it a day or two more before I assume that nobody has any issues anymore and that everything has been cleared up.

Just to make this next bit extra clear, it'll be brought to you by the power of BOLD TEXT!

If you have any objections, concerns or problems with the raiding system in general or specific facets of it, bring them to light with a member of the guild's leadership or stow them. If you can't be bothered to express your feelings on the subject when you think there's something up, then you're not entitled to grumble AT ALL. Random non-directed grumblings will at best be ignored, and at worst will be considered deliberately disruptive behaviour and will be reacted to accordingly.

Hopefully anyone with something important to say that's been holding back will get off their arses and say something now.

Also, bear in mind that the offer to talk things over via PM and whatnot will always stand, as new problems can arise in the future. I just want everyone to consider this post to be a final chance to get any current grumblings out of the way.
 

Windzarko

Well-Known Member
Just as a little addition, in case my tone came across wrong before;

If you do have concerns and come to talk to me, it'll be kept private unless the concerns are something that need to be brought to the general attention of the officers, in which case I'll express the concern but not the name of the person unless they say otherwise. There won't be any pasting of complaints, concerns or queries in general view of anyone.

Also, I'm not going to come down hard on people or view them negatively for coming to me with concerns, queries, or barrages of "teh sky is fallin!!1", and it won't negatively impact their status within the guild. Unless, y'know, you come at me with insult-guns blazing and a generally flamewar-esque attitude. I'm fine with frustration and/or anger, I'm fine with complaints, but I won't be fine with angry or petty behaviour (not that I expect it of anyone, but best to say up-front to avoid confusion).
 
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