[Tech] Teamspeak 3 thoughts and impressions?

[Haven]

The Server has been up and running for a couple of weeks now so I thought I'd grab some feedback from those that have used it.

How does it perform ?
What do you like ?
What would you change ?

Not tried it yet ? Go grab the client and have a go.

 

[thatbloke]

Having used it properly for the first time yesterday, I think it's very good.

The quality is much higher and there are a TON more options that we can make use of when we figure out what they actually do

Thumbs up from me

 

[Pingue]

I like it - a lot of it just "makes more sense" than the older version, and there's a lot more handy options.
Performance-wise, I've had no problems, and I believe the only problem with quality was Wol's mic!
I approve.

 

[Wol]

I like it - a lot of it just "makes more sense" than the older version, and there's a lot more handy options.
Performance-wise, I've had no problems, and I believe the only problem with quality was Wol's mic!
I approve.

I think it was your face.

thats the headset I use, and I've not had any problems recording from it in the past with no real loss in quality so don't know whats up in that case.

Anyway, back more on topic - I havent really heard much difference between ts2 and ts3. Client seems pretty much the same, just with a bit more retarded user interface (sorry, clicking and dragging from the main window to the options window is not a standard way of adding people to a list). People still sound the same, buttons do what they did before, just now the link I used to click to join the THN server, has moved somewhere else in the program, and it now takes me longer to connect because I never remember first time.

does it sound any better? imo - nope.

a bit of an upgrade to make the interface look less VB6ish, but functionality wise, I cant see much difference. A bit meh to be honest!

 

[Traxata]

The codecs are much better, having run the same conversations with kershan a couple of times between ts2 and ts3 the latency is far closer to that of skype, I haven't checked to see latency Vs ventrilo, but I think it's better than vent. There is a slight issue of the server requiring an urgent update were still running beta 2, and the latest server is 12, with a warning message for people to update to atleast version 5.
It now provides you with the ability to unsubscribe from channels which allows me to not have to look at the mass quantity of people in the wow channels. Obviously at the mommy it's not much of a problem, but when the eventual change over happens will be quite useful

[mod]Server was already updated this morning to 12 - Haven[/mod]

 

[BiG D]

Based on what I've seen, I would much prefer a Mumble server. Less hoops to jump through than with TS3, and much more likely to still be receiving updates six months from now...

 

[Ronin Storm]

Based on what I've seen, I would much prefer a Mumble server.

Mumble was proving to be an utter arse to install and configure. Happy for Haven to have a stab but the requirement for the ZeroC Ice RPC framework, which presumably was meant to make things more compatible, was just proving to be an irritation.

 

[BiG D]

Fair enough. If it isn't as straightforward, don't bother. I just think the sound quality in mumble is better, and TS2 development being stagnant for six years has left a bad taste in my mouth

 

[Kasatka]

Mumble is in my opinion far better quality than the previous gen Vent/TS, i haven't checked out the new TS yet so i'll old off on my decision till then.

 

[PsiSoldier]

When compared to TS2 it's far better, so I'll compare it to Vent.

-The latency is far better than Ventrilo, many times I have been surprised by people answering the second I ask a question, though I'm not sure if that's TS3 or just because the server THN use is a damned good one

-Sound quality is on par with Ventrilo, and when lag spikes occur it seems instead of bunching up the sound then blasting it at you in one lump when it stops like vent does, it drops the codec quality so it can continue being streamed (though it seems to eat bandwidth more than vent does so this occurs more than the bunching).

-As far as the UI and settings go, much easier to get a hold of the basic stuff compared to Vent's setup, though I still haven't found where you disable those damned pokes from popping up.

On the subject of Mumble, I already need 3 different voice comm apps installed, I don't want a to need 4th

 

[Nanor]

-The latency is far better than Ventrilo, many times I have been surprised by people answering the second I ask a question, though I'm not sure if that's TS3 or just because the server THN use is a damned good one

I think that would be TS3. In TS2 there is roughly a one second delay.

 

[Wol]

I'll admit the lag on ts3 does seem to be a lot less, but even then, by the time youve shouted "theres a jockey over there", the poor sod is being ridden like a rocking horse

If you ever hear me singing in ts3, then its merely me testing out the lag *-)..... honest....

 

[PsiSoldier]

I'll admit the lag on ts3 does seem to be a lot less, but even then, by the time youve shouted "theres a jockey over there", the poor sod is being ridden like a rocking horse

If you ever hear me singing in ts3, then its merely me testing out the lag *-)..... honest....

Ah. Well it's still not as bad as 30+ second vent lag

 

[Haven]

Murmur installed.

sudo emerge murmur

>>> Installing (1 of 1) media-sound/murmur-1.2.0
>>> Performing suid scan in /var/tmp/portage/media-sound/murmur-1.2.0/image/

* Useful scripts are located in /usr/share/doc/murmur-1.2.0/scripts.
* Please execute:
* murmurd -ini /etc/murmur/murmur.ini -supw <pw>
* chown murmur:murmur /var/lib/murmur/murmur.sqlite
* to set the build-in 'SuperUser' password before starting murmur.
* Please restart dbus before starting murmur, or else dbus
* registration will fail.

promethius murmur # vim /etc/murmur/murmur.ini
promethius murmur # /etc/init.d/murmur start
* Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ]
* Starting Murmur ... [ ok ]

Its just using sqlite as the backend for now - if it takes off I might change that to mysql but have a play with it for now - connect to promethius.thehavennet.org.uk default port (64738). If you need the admin password then you know who to ask

 

[Ronin Storm]

Re: Murmur installed.

We also need an admin console, which I couldn't get to work. Any joy with that?

 

[Haven]

Re: Murmur installed.

We also need an admin console, which I couldn't get to work. Any joy with that?

All values are stored in an sqlite database. The server itself doesn't support modification directly.

You can edit sqlite3 directly i.e.

sqlite3 /var/lib/murmur/murmur.sqlite
SQLite version 3.6.20
Enter ".help" for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ";"
sqlite> .databases
seq name file
--- --------------- ----------------------------------------------------------
0 main /var/lib/murmur/murmur.sqlite
sqlite> .tables
acl channel_links group_members player_auth slog
bans channels groups servers user_info
channel_info config meta servers_old users

Commands such as:

sqlite> UPDATE users SET pw = 'newpass' WHERE name = 'SuperUser';

Should then work for you. I'm sure there's a full list out of there of sqlite syntax.

Other easier methods are to grab a client application, there's a batch at the bottom of the following link but I've not tried any of them.

http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Running_Murmur

Of all of them: http://bograt.com/Murmur/ looks probably what you're most after, drop me a pm for the password or just reset it and have a play.

 

[Haven]

Re: Murmur installed.

Just added the following in /root/scripts/mmctl.py

http://github.com/mbr/mmctl

promethius scripts # python mmctl.py --list-servers
id host port name
1 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 64738

promethius scripts # python mmctl.py --server 1 --create-user haven monkey@nuts.org
new user: <User:Id 1/Server 1/Name haven>

promethius scripts # python mmctl.py --server 1 --user 1 --change-password
new password for haven:
password changed

 

[Ronin Storm]

Re: Murmur installed.

Ah, excellent, I'll have a play with that later. Thanks!

Can you see how you configure admins/super-admins? Hmm, is that even relevant? I'll try to take a look this evening, connection willing. Or tomorrow when I'm home again.

 

[waterproofbob]

Re: Murmur installed.

Generally been well impressed with what I've seen.

I do like as well the fact that you can give someone a "token" for permissions. Tried it out with Trax earlier and is a nice feature

 

[Ghostwolf67]

Aesthetically its much better. Looks up-to-date. I even like the synth voice telling me when stuff happens (though it still got muted).

The lag seems reduced. The interface seems to have loads more options for those who want to use them.

What else can you say really. Its still TS essentially its a bit smoother running with a lot of extras 'under the hood' so to speak but for those of us who only use it to tell Pandawithissues that a charger is punching out my urethra, i dont see alot thats different. And i guess thats actually not a bad thing.

I still havent used it in a situation where the lags piling up though so i dont know if its going to go all 'old time radio' on me like the last one did.