United Earth Federation

[Nanor]

Let's say, hypothetically, every country in the world joins up to form something along the lines of a United Earth Federation. Like the EU, but every country, has the same laws, same currency and same language, same government and all the rest. Now this is very theoretical, I can't see North Korea and USA sitting side by side with massive grins on their faces, but if it did happen would you like it? I mean I'd love it personally. It would be so much handier, everyone speaking the same language, having the same currency and so forth. Everyone united under one banner, yet still individual. Picture having just one government. Whatever is decided has input from everyone around the world.

Would you like it? Would it work?

 

[thatbloke]

It'd be too big. Imagine the grief we are getting over here where the EU makes laws that apply to us but we have no say in (Use of metric measures only, anyone?). Now imaging some pen-pusher HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD doing something similar, making laws that affect your day to day life... and yet you would have no say in the matter.

The infrastructure for something that big would also be so big that things would get lost. The only good things I can see that MIGHT come out of it is that there will be no war, and also that the rights of the majority might actually get heard at some point... but in a system like that you won't be a person, you'll be a number.

 

[Tetsuo_Shima]

I think that it'd become far too large to contain itself, far too much corruption and all those other unpleasantries that seem to go hand in hand with large empires. Aside from that, I think it's far more interesting having our nations separated individually, each with their own cultures and people. When the human colonisation of space takes place, it might end up a different story.

 

[Gopha]

Yeh I partly agree with Tetsuo Shima, I personally am really interested in places such as the phillipines and africa, and I would want to go there and discover their language, culture, beliefs and way of life, if we was all one nation as such there would be no adventure, no changes everything would be the smae the whole world over, it would nbe very boring and a great shame in my opinion.

 

[Nanor]

each with their own cultures and people.

Yeh I partly agree with Tetsuo Shima, I personally am really interested in places such as the phillipines and africa, and I would want to go there and discover their language, culture, beliefs and way of life, if we was all one nation as such there would be no adventure, no changes everything would be the smae the whole world over, it would nbe very boring and a great shame in my opinion.

Who's saying anything about losing culture? Language, sure, but we haven't forgotten about Latin or any other languages. Has the Eiffel Tower become any less impressive since it joined the EU? Has the GPO in Dublin become any less impressive since Ireland adopted the Euro? Of course there'd be changes and everyone would still have their own cultures and ways of life.

I agree with Tets about the colonization of space, however.

 

[Sephiroth]

If you ask me the colonization of space jsut causes more problems, now im not saying "yeah we're going to run into real evil aliens" or some rubbish, but then you have (before the world is one nation) the countries grabbing things for themselves. There are wars over land on Earth why not in outer space too?

Also, if the world becomes one big nation, im going to use the British empire as an example then your old nationality remains and the ones who are dominating (like britian was in its empire *HAZA!*) then you'd have individuals using those peoples for money.

If your reading this and saying "hes a complete moron" then... fine

 

[waterproofbob]

Also, if the world becomes one big nation, im going to use the British empire as an example then your old nationality remains and the ones who are dominating (like britian was in its empire *HAZA!*) then you'd have individuals using those peoples for money.

The difference would be that in this suggested UEF there couldn't be a forcing of other nations to join as this would be counter productive. If this was like the EU you'd have to want to be in it. In which case it is nothing like an empire which is one parental state governing the rest. I think it would never happen tbh, Unless there was some global disaster that forced the remainder of the population to move as one to a goal and as this is unlikely to happen i don't think a world wide confederation would happen.

From a fiscal perspective it has some advantages to all be able to trade in one currency. I think enforcing one language is quite nuts. The mere suggestion that the world all speak for example mandarin and that this would be enforced would create conflicts across the globe.

 

[Nanor]

The difference would be that in this suggested UEF there couldn't be a forcing of other nations to join as this would be counter productive. If this was like the EU you'd have to want to be in it. In which case it is nothing like an empire which is one parental state governing the rest. I think it would never happen tbh, Unless there was some global disaster that forced the remainder of the population to move as one to a goal and as this is unlikely to happen i don't think a world wide confederation would happen.

From a fiscal perspective it has some advantages to all be able to trade in one currency. I think enforcing one language is quite nuts. The mere suggestion that the world all speak for example mandarin and that this would be enforced would create conflicts across the globe.

It's all hypothetical Bob . I'm only saying if it happened, would you like it and would there be downsides and upsides?

 

[thatbloke]

I think enforcing one language is quite nuts. The mere suggestion that the world all speak for example mandarin and that this would be enforced would create conflicts across the globe.

Yea we should all be speaking English... What a silly suggestion bob...

 

[Wraith]

I think enforcing one language is quite nuts. The mere suggestion that the world all speak for example mandarin and that this would be enforced would create conflicts across the globe.

It's already been tried, but has pretty much failed. There are still some people who speak Esperanto, but they number only hundreds of thousands, rather than the billions alive.

 

[Gopha]

Who's saying anything about losing culture? Language, sure, but we haven't forgotten about Latin or any other languages. Has the Eiffel Tower become any less impressive since it joined the EU? Has the GPO in Dublin become any less impressive since Ireland adopted the Euro? Of course there'd be changes and everyone would still have their own cultures and ways of life.

NO they wouldn't! and the Eiffel Tower is a monument its hardly a culture or way of life isit? Who actually speaks latin in modern affairs anymore though?

Everything would change....... People would crave for their identity. Life wouldn't be as interesting . What would all the governemnts do? some would have ot give up power but who would gladly do that?

Although I do agree that if everyone was united it would be a better world, asthere would be less quarrells. and if it became corrupt, what could we do? lol I see your point but like communism ,its a great idea but will never work in practice

 

[Nanor]

Dictionary.com defines culture as:
"the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc."

Just because they're both in the same federation doesn't mean they're the same thing. New Orleans would still have Mardi Gras and Ireland would still have the marches commemorating 1916. Music wouldn't be the same, art wouldn't be the same or architecture wouldn't be the same in different sides of the world. Ways of life? I'm pretty damned sure someone living in Africa is going to have a considerably different way of life than me.

Life wouldn't be as interesting? Do you really get so much of a thrill by converting pounds to dollars? That much of a thrill from having to raise your voice, speak slower and point at objects when speaking another language? Now, understandably a language can be a great thing, and all the different languages are very interesting, but Latin is no less interesting than it was 2000 years ago, and English or French would be no less interesting if this happened than it is now.

What would all the governemnts do? some would have ot give up power but who would gladly do that?

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Yeah, in fairness, things may become corrupt, but aren't things corrupt now? It's just a representative from every country being corrupt in one room.