Upcoming PVP Arena Battles

[SgtFury]

Information on the WOW Eu forums about the new style of Arena battles that will be coming with the new expansion. Sounds like Guild Wars to me .

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With the upcoming expansion we will be introducing arena battles and to give you a better idea of what to expect, here are the rules:


You do not talk about arena battles.


When a player enters an arena battle, all buffs and conjured items are purged/deleted. This is done to ensure no outside buffs or items from members outside of your team are able to be used in an arena battle.


No consumables other than bandages and conjured items can be used while in the arena. There will be a waiting area similar to the current battlegrounds where players on the team will be able to conjure items and cast buffs.


Abilities/spells/items with cooldowns longer than 15 minutes cannot be used while in the arena.


Each arena team will be given a rating, and will be matched up in the arena queue against teams of a similar rating. As time progresses the matching system will broaden its search up to a limit if a closely rated team cannot be found.


Ratings adjustments are made in the same way that ELO ratings adjustments are made. This system works by adjusting each arena teams rating from a specific match based on the rating of the team they are up against. If a team wins against a team of a higher rating, the increase of their arena rating would be much higher than if they had won against a team of a lower rating. This system will help promote players improving their skill and besting teams which may have previously held the top spots.


At the end of each week, characters receive arena points based on their team's rating. A team must have fought a minimum number of battles for the week, which we have announced as currently set to 10 games. A player must have played in at least 30% of the team’s battles that week in order to be eligible to receive arena points. Each eligible player will then receive a fraction of the team’s total awarded points to spend on arena rewards.


Players may spend their points on arena rewards, or save their points until they have enough to get the rewards they desire.


There is a limit to the number of points a player can stockpile, which is currently planned to be as high as the most expensive item.


At the end of a season, players on a team are given a title based on their team’s relative position on the ladder which will last through the next arena season.

 

[Gizmo-5]

No consumables other than bandages and conjured items can be used while in the arena. There will be a waiting area similar to the current battlegrounds where players on the team will be able to conjure items and cast buffs.


Abilities/spells/items with cooldowns longer than 15 minutes cannot be used while in the arena.


That sucks, this makes most of the powerful engineer specials unusable, which is not fair, effectively nerfing the engineer profession which is designed to give you a combat advantage, Blizzard you can suck my balls.

I sound like a whiney teen but its true, if you were an armour smith and i said, all armour items with a protection of 400 or higher cannot be worn then that would be unfair, and i would agree.

Second, Priest buffs are supposed to last a long duration of time, from what i understand this is downplaying the priests ability to cast long lasting buffs, therefore slightly nerfing the priest class, i love it when people do things like this, The long lasting duration of a stamina buff is a priests advantage, saving mana over time, its like when i duel warriors and they ask me to buff them to, i tell them where they can shove there axe of +20 armour penetration

/rant off

 

[thatbloke]

note he is saying that it is the cooldown that affects whether or not you can use an ability. So the top rated abilities such as Retalitation (for warrior) cannot be used to give an advantage.

This is quite simly designed to make the playing field as level as possible. Once in, you are able to cast att the normal buffs (stamina, etc.) that you would expect...

To use conjure items you need to create them in the actual arena. Fair enough. Stops people going in with 200 drinks pre-stocked. Means you have to use your mana wisely... and maybe go buy some real drinks!

Removing all outside buffs is also good. again stops unfair advantages... (Blessing of the Horde when you are low levels anyone?)

There are few abilities that will not be able to be used... only really the top rated ones at the top of your talent trees.

Also, it doesn't mention whether or not you would have to re-summon pets. May be something I will ask.

 

[Gizmo-5]

even so man, im not to bothered about the buffing issue, but it just leaves me with grenades and my shrink ray

Net-O-Matic is 20 mins
Rocket Helm is 20 mins
Rocket boots are 20 mins
Death ray 20 mins
Mind Control Cap 20 mins

Now you cant say thats more than a fair bit of nerfing on the engineers prof can you?

 

[thatbloke]

So what is a miner/blacksmith supposed to bring to the fight? or a tailor? or an enchanter? or any other profession for that matter...

Suddenly everyone in PvP arenas would all be engineers. So that nerf is there for a reason.

You should be using your class abilities to their best effect rather than your profession abilities/items in a PvP fight. The profession abilities are things which can sometimes grant advantages in a "normal" PvP fight. Not something you want in a PvP setting.

 

[Loki]

So what is a miner/blacksmith supposed to bring to the fight? or a tailor? or an enchanter? or any other profession for that matter...

Suddenly everyone in PvP arenas would all be engineers. So that nerf is there for a reason.

You should be using your class abilities to their best effect rather than your profession abilities/items in a PvP fight. The profession abilities are things which can sometimes grant advantages in a "normal" PvP fight. Not something you want in a PvP setting.

I guess it's to make the fights a bit quicker/bloodier too.

 

[thatbloke]

I guess it's to make the fights a bit quicker/bloodier too.

exactly.

 

[Gizmo-5]

ok thatbloke, if you havent noticed, blacksmiths make... Armour? do we see any armoursmith nerfs there no, but armour gives you a combat advantage?

The thing with engineering is that it makes hardly any money whatsoever, the whole point of engineering is a pvp prof, and by doing this you are unfairly ruling out a proffesion for its primary role.

Next time i duel you thatbloke, please remove all your enchants and home made kit, i see it as unfair to use it, because i dont have them.

 

[SgtFury]

But you could have them Gizmo if you bought them.....non engineers can't have your stuff.

I do know what you mean but I can understand what Blizzard are trying to do. Keep the games short and interesting and not have any crys of "imbalanced".

 

[Loki]

But you could have them Gizmo if you bought them.....non engineers can't have your stuff.

I do know what you mean but I can understand what Blizzard are trying to do. Keep the games short and interesting and not have any crys of "imbalanced".

One other thing, think of the amount of data Blizzard will be collecting regarding balancing issues. I couldn't think of a better way to run thousands of simulated battles, than getting thousands of people to do it manually.

 

[thatbloke]

But you could have them Gizmo if you bought them.....non engineers can't have your stuff.

Exactly the point I was trying to make... Those Engineer items are usable ONLY by engineers... any armour a Blacksmith makes(for example) can be worn by anyone, (skills allowing of course...)

Any enchants can be had by anyone...

 

[Gizmo-5]

I Cant wear armour, i took engineering as pvp prof as it is intended.

Infact apart from alchemy and enchanting its the only pvp prof that a priest can use, so i suggest that we completely nerf alchemy and enchanting too

Also, you cant use our stuff as a trade of for us not making ANY money, i have not made 1 drop of gold from engineering, so i think its only fair that if you take the time and effort to invest in a proffesion, you should be given the full extent of the rewards.