What does it mean to be in a 'Community'?

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LynxGB

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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

So is this a community or not? Dosnt seem like one!!!

Meaning of cummunity;

community is an amalgamation of living things that share an environment. The individual living beings can be plant or animal; any species; any size. What characterizes a community is sharing interaction in many ways. In human communities, intent, belief, resources, preferences, needs and a multitude of other conditions may be present and common, affecting the degree of adhesion within the mixture, but the definitive driver of community is that all individual subjects in the mix have something in common. This is even true in biological communities.

Problems of community::::::

As communities form, so usually develops a collective consciousness and a set of mores. These serve to add cohesion, harmony and continuity to a group, allowing it to grow, sometimes to a gargantuan size. Once a critical mass of people adopts a set of mores and develops a collective consciousness it becomes a society. Participation is no longer optional for the individual. Behavior is now a function of being required or compelled to conform to the norm rather than choosing to give of one's self. This condition is sometimes thought of as the status quo.
 
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Fi$hy

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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

Lol, I'm not even going to ask what you mean by that...
but I have an essay on "to what extent is it possible to leave a community or marry into a tribe" so if ya wana do that too, that would be great :p
 

pHatBambi

In Cryo Sleep
Re: New Ed Community Squad!

[mod]Moved from Battlefield 2 room as I felt the discussion was more relevant here.[/mod]
 

Haven

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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

Cool we've finally become a society :) *pops a bottle of bubbly to celebrate*

Or am I missing the point here ? Actually could someone explain what the hell is going on to those of us who simply dont get whats happening here ? Is this an abstract debate on the definition of a community - in which case what does that have to do with Enemy Down ? Alternatively taking a cue from the post subject what does enemy down have to do with the definition of a community ?

I'm guessing we all need a little background to this post, or maybe just me.

*confused*
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Ronin Storm

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LynxGB said:
So is this a community or not? Dosnt seem like one!!!

I'm lacking the original context as I'm not signed into the Battlefield 2 areas at the moment. However, let me dive in a little and see where this goes.

THN is very much a community, in that often all that draws us together is a mutual interest in playing games. THN has seen different games come and go. With the games some people come and go as their interest was with that game. Yet others stay around, despite the dwindling interest in the game that brought them here. This has happened with Natural Selection (though one might argue that NS hasn't quite left, as yet) and, eventually, it will happen with Battlefield 2.

Ongoing are an ever changing landscape of other games that we find interesting, whatever they may be, along with a general chatter that brings us closer together. It is this background layer that defines our community, not the game that is in prime ascendancy at the time. THN was here before the game and THN will be here after it has gone into decline.

In a general sense, I feel this is all that is required for community -- coming together in a common interest. Online communities are not destined to become macro-socio-entities, by which I mean that it is not a necessary function for a online community to expand ad-infinitum, where this is a fundamental requirement in the real world because of the nature of resource distribution / allocation / acquisition. Effectively, our resources are near infinite, online. This is aided by the fact that, as a community, we only ever provide a social network of emotional and mental support -- we never need to provide for the physical bodies that real world communities must cater for.

So, drawing parallels with real world communities I feel to be fruitless. Our constraints are both less and different and our nature shares no fundamental baseline. As an online community, we are free to come together and develop, or not, as we see fit. Impact to real world communities: near sum zero. Impact to the individuals who are involved: substantial, sometimes even profound.

Under my definition (inevitably), THN is very much a community -- an online community.

Within our community we undertake various activities. Those activities are governed by individuals or groups of individuals. Some of these things are spontaneous and expected to have a relatively short life, such as the proposed Starcraft event (not saying it's doomed, just saying it's not yet got the legs to be anything big). Others are ongoing, such as Battlefield 2 or Alien Swarm. Battlefield 2 is easily our flagship game, at the moment, but Alien Swarm has consistently run for much longer and has its own dedicated participants.

All these participants in these activites are welcome to partake of our wider community, but that is not a requirement. The THN community is here as a base to support our continued "survival" as a group over the Internet, from which we can create and feed new activities that interest us.

The management of individual activities is separate to the management of the community. Activities may have rules over and above those of the community, including entry or participation requirements. This is for those responsible for each activity to state in plain terms and to them to devise and implement. Many of our activities are open for all, usually on a first-come-first-served basis.

This is not to say that the activities are fundamentally different to the community, nor that the management of each part has no relation to the other, but that activities comprise of a subset of our community and, sometimes, include people who are only very loosely "community members". Indeed, an activity that was unrelated to THN, or adverse to the health of the community of THN, would probably be asked to be move on -- we are a community first and foremost. Those responsible for the community side of THN provide occasional guidance for the activities' management, and the activities inform the community of what is going on and where people can get involved.

Still, for our community to survive and even thrive we need a shared baseline, and this baseline is found largely in our activities and partly in our banter. I see our continued survival over the past three years, and I see our boom and slump between major activities.

Our latest incarnation, as exemplified in this board, is an attempt to allow any one area to boom without this being at the expense of the wider community -- the overbearing prevalence of Battlefield 2 lead to a slump in our other activities. Now these things can be managed and viewed according to an individual user's interests (via membership, or its lack, to usergroups). Don't like Natural Selection? No problem. Want to get involved again? No problem. Just join or leave the group as you see fit.

Battlefield 2 for THN has three major facets, from my point of observation: the clan, the community, and community activities driven by the clan. Examples, respectively, might be an ED Clan Match, a friendly meet-up on a server, and our THN Mini-League matches. In the first and last examples, these are organised by the Battlefield 2 Clan Admins. In the middle one, where it is just about community (i.e. getting together, playing some games, having some fun... the basis of all our ad-hoc activities) it is up to the self-declared organiser to get people together and make it happen. In that sense, any community member is both a participant and an organiser at any time, but when an activity is already being organised it is up to those who are already undertaking that to carry it on (or delegate it, if needed) -- after all, those organisers have often committed many weeks and months to building an activity to the point it has reached and they deserve a high degree of control over their creation.

So, we're a complex beast. At once we have this concept of community interacting with both ad-hoc/spontaneous and scheduled/organised activities. It is through cooperation and mutual respect that we arrive at decisions of what we do next. If Battlefield 2 tried to lay claim to all days of the week and demanded that everyone play or leave the boards then they'd be slapped down... but that'd lack mutual respect and as an underpinning principle that the BF2 Admin Team already adhere to I really don't see that happening.

But we do have a community, and it's alive and well. Sufficiently so that over three quarters of our members visit this board every single day.

Just remember: you can opt in and opt out of whatever activities you like, and you can even choose to opt out of them all, and yet still you can be part of the THN community, and doubly so as we start to grow the THN Network into the Comedy and Tech sites that are just fledgling beasts at the moment.
 

pHatBambi

In Cryo Sleep
Re: New Ed Community Squad!

I moved this out of the ED topic because these posts were not relevant to the original thread "New Ed Community Squad".

I felt that it would be a good topic for discussion and it would be interesting to get peoples views on what they think we are/should be and how we go about keeping our community.

That's all really Haven.

pHatBambi.
 

Haven

Administrator
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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

heh fair enough - I caught up with the other topic eventually and it all became clear :)
 
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Fi$hy

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Very nice Ronin, ever thought of removing the THN aspect and then adding your description to wikipedia? (the definition of community there has never been good enough for my work :p )
 
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Fi$hy

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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

ya, Bambi stated that it's possible to join and leave this lovely place as we see fit, to which Lynx replied that the weakness will be that if this community somehow expands to form a Society (oh yes, THN language and religeon here we come :p ) then partaking in that group is no longer optional.

lol, it's getting a bit philosophical here :D
 

SgtSafety

In Cryo Sleep
YES LETS ALL HUG! because deep down inside us all we know we like - or im my case love - everyone, with all ur little quirks :D So lets all be happy. If this arguement keeps going i think i might just leave the ED squad because theres no point in all this tension between everyone. We are a Community and should at least like each other not biting at each otheres ankles.
 
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Fi$hy

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shh safety, the argument's been confined away, it's also over.

This is, "what does it mean to be in a community?" or think of it like "what is a community, and what does it require?" more of a debate more than anything (and it benefits me, as a 1/4 of my English A-level's about how English soldiers affect and change a community in Ireland 1830) so debate!!

pretty please :p
 

Gibsonfire

In Cryo Sleep
Hmmm our own language? Wonder what it would be like :)

But yeah saftey i woudnt worry about the argument, its all over now
 
U

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Re: New Ed Community Squad!

haven said:
Or am I missing the point here?

I'm with you on this one Haven, just what is it that your trying to say here Lynx? Or did you just want to start a 'debate'?
 

Taffy

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The post above was posted by me, I just hadn't signed in :S

On another point: Safety, are you a socialist???
 

KillCrazy

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Sometimes, in my point of view, it becomes neccessary to stop thinking about things too much. The outcome can be disasterous.
 

Gopha

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Gopha puts on the old record player : Now playing.....................Guns N Roses -Children of the revolutuon
 
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