Joggler fun

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elDiablo

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I was thinking of using it with a bluetooth remote control, so I dont need direct line of sight. For I am going to do crazy things with this Joggler and embed it into a wall! \o/
 

Haven

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I was thinking of using it with a bluetooth remote control, so I dont need direct line of sight. For I am going to do crazy things with this Joggler and embed it into a wall! \o/

I agree the bluetooth will be useful, as for embedding it in a wall - unless you have a cunning means to get rid of the heat I forsee issues ahead.
 

Haven

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"£1.61 + FREE SHIPPING"

.... Last time I looked, free was not more expensive than £1.61

Does anyone actually use bluetooth these days?

I think it was around 1.80 postage back when I bought it ... smart arse! :)
 

Haven

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Not had much time to spend on this during the week so doing a little bit today.

Currently compiling an optimised stage3 gentoo base world build on a surrogate system for the joggler. In the meantime the Joggler entertains with some lovely music:

joggler-spotify.jpg


Done some basic openssl benchmarks on Ubuntu so I can compare them with the optimised build when its done. Also been reading a fair bit on Poulsbo vs IEGD for the graphics. Ubuntu seems to have IEGD working so need to figure out how and reverse engineer it for my own purposes.

For those still wanting to get one - definately phone around your local O2 stores and see if they have any left. Stocks are all out online and in most stores however. An interesting thread on this and what may hold for the future of the joggler can be seen here.

Edit: A bit of googling found the successor details. Not double checked this but it looks viable.
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
seems my post from earlier today didnt appear....

phone up o2's sales line, give them your details, and theyll let you know once theyre back in stock.


Is that spotify just running under wine?

I'm trying to get a meego image working. Debian was proving a bit of a bitch. Although the meego stuff doesnt seem to have much info on what to do with the kernel :S
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
Nice.

I'm still failing to get ubuntu happily running off the internal flash.

Have got a 1gb image running off usb stick. I dd the partition onto the internal flash, modify /etc/fstab to use the internal flash, not /dev/sda2, copy the files from the bootloader partition across, and modify the grub.cfg file to use the /dev/mmcblk0p2 as root, not /dev/sda2 as root, and it doesn't do anything.

Anyone have any ideas, before i unscrew the thing and find the serial port on the bugger?
 
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elDiablo

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Not had a chance to play with the internal flash yet. My USB stick seems to keep getting corrupted after the first time I load from it, requiring a re-write from another computer. I've seen a lot of mention that any sized stick over 4Gb can have issues, and mine is 16Gb, so I'm getting a smaller one to test with. I'm extremely tempted to install Ubuntu on the internal flash, and then do the PATA connecter work to have a nice big storage space to go with it.
 

Haven

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The joggler USB is flaky with regards to the power it can supply, its possible that the 16GB stick pulls more than the joggler can reliably give. If you want to play with an external disk then make sure its powered and not passive :)

Wol, so the bootloader is on the external drive and is calling the internal flash ?
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
Bootloader is on the internal flash, and has the root filesystem on the second partition on the internal flash also. It's pretty much the same as what the ubuntu image is that youve downloaded.

As far as I know, it should goto the first filesystem (internal) when nothing is plugged in over usb, find the startup.nsh file, which tells it to run boot.nsh, which tells it to run the grub.efi file, which uses the grub.cfg file which says to use /dev/mmcblk0p2. The inintrd/vmlinuz is loaded from the bootloader partition, and the lib/modules are on the root partition it seems (from the usb stick anyway).

But as I cant see the console output, I dont get any debugging info :(
 

BiG D

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And you can't just redirect or pipe the output somewhere you'd be able to see it?
 
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elDiablo

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The joggler USB is flaky with regards to the power it can supply, its possible that the 16GB stick pulls more than the joggler can reliably give. If you want to play with an external disk then make sure its powered and not passive :)...

Powered USB Hub :(
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
*lays a bet on a stupid typo being the cause*

I've tried it about 8 or so times now, so I'd be annoyed if I'd done a typo 8 times, when all I have to type is /dev/mmcblk0p2

And you can't just redirect or pipe the output somewhere you'd be able to see it?

It's output before the OS starts so as far as I know there's no easy way to pipe it anywhere. The actual EFI bootloader flash chip is separate, and if you fack that up, you really brick the device, rather than just brick it, so I'd ideally not have to be lifting chips between the two jogglers I've got!
 

Haven

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I'd suggest switching to using uuid's to identify the paritition, its possible that the kernel you are using is generating that as a different device name than you are expecting.
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
mmmm uuidpain. Will give it a go. Have managed to get a custom compiled kernel booting now and running debian. Am waiting for a dd copy to finish at the moment. *yawn*

i just want to opengl it up!
 
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