New talents / spells / abilities... love 'em or hate 'em?

[Xylak]

Well, folks, my initial trepidation at the updated talents & spells seems to have been groundless. After last night's poke at ICC I'm knida linking my new blamability. There's definitely a lot more going on and there's more to iron out in the way of stats and rotation but until they nerf destructolocks (because they always do!) I'm going to enjoy my extra dps and damage.
So, let's do a quick straw poll of whether you like the changes or not....

 

[thatbloke]

I have so far spent about 3 hours figuring out a spec, actionbar layout and also figuring out what the hell I should be casting and when as a demo lock. Haven't actually tried anything yet though.....

 

[Razaak]

I have so far spent about 4 years figuring out a spec, actionbar layout and also figuring out what the hell I should be casting and when as a demo lock. Haven't actually tried anything yet though.....

Fixed that for ya.

 

[Razaak]

Gotta say, pally tanking was good fun in ICC last night...

"Your Shield of the Righteous hits Festergut for 36,805 (Critical)"...

 

[Elincia]

I am very, very happy with what they did
Druids, locks, priests and hunters are a lot more fun to play imo
And from what I hear the other classes gotten better aswell

Blizz did some very good things here and this (together with Archeaology in Cata) will make me play lots of WoW again

 

[AcidK]

I like how paladins have finally got more spells and a better range to use, rather than just being a 2-button class. I am unsure if I like how they changed the Holy Light and Flash of Light healing (making HL crapper but better mana efficient, changing FoL to be a mana drain but much faster and MUCH better heals).

Was hilarious when I out-threated a tank with my now-ridiculous healing output as well as being better with face tanking than he was normal tanking. Ah well, thats what I get for having a healing-return that heals me more than my Holy Light does each time... add a BoL to that and I am unstoppable xD

 

[Sabbath]

Love the new focus! doing like 9k dps unbuffed on heroic dummys now

 

[Auryn]

Fixed that for ya.

fixed his rotation? lemme know too!

I dont know if to love or hate this, i hate not knowing the ins and outs of my char. I need moar proper specs, glyphs and rotations on the other chars ><

 

[Angelic]

I dont know if to love or hate this, i hate not knowing the ins and outs of my char. I need moar proper specs, glyphs and rotations on the other chars ><

I second that. Plus I'm still not sure if I like what they've done with Holy priests. From the looks of it I don't like it, but I haven't played Angel post-401 yet so my opinion on it is quite worthless.

 

[Windzarko]

Ins and outs come with time and experience; it's been the same for every expansion so far. We've got a month and a half at least till we go past 80, so plenty of time to get the hang of what we have now, and then alter it accordingly as we level up and hit the new level cap, which should be plenty of time to settle into a new and comfortable pattern for our classes (and for any new mods we get; I need to try and force my eyes to focus more on the Holy Power meter mod thingy I have near the middle of my screen rather than letting my eyes keep moving up to the default one just under my HP/mana bars...)

So far, though, I'm loving basically everything for the characters I've logged in on and sorted specs for. Once I get to grips with it, I might even play Umbrator again, something I haven't really been able to make myself do since 3.0.

So yeah... I was right in my predictions and expectations (for myself, at least); this patch owns! ^^

 

[SwampFae]

Patch thus far is a bit 50/50
Some things rawk
Some things are..hmm.. What were they thinking?

Also: Give Hunters miniguns! (joking, joking )

 

[Chuchurocket]

They should give an heirloom gun called Vintage Natascha Ill shall report my 4.0.1 decision when it decides to install.

EDIT: Still installing >.< but it looks like Sub rogue might be viable once more :O Hoooray

 

[Sasser]

it looks like Sub rogue might be viable once more

In theory, yes it looks shiny. but in practice there are way too many things to manage for it to work in non-stationary fights. Also, Shadow Dance with 100 Energy is meh.

 

[Gombol]

Patch thus far is a bit 50/50
Some things rawk
Some things are..hmm.. What were they thinking?

Also: Give Hunters miniguns! (joking, joking )

Knowing Blizz. They will add that if enough Casuals want it.

 

[HotStuff]

It does make the priest more useful in organising raids, in that they now have very focussed talents, rather than a diluted set of all three where they are neither there nor there.

 

[Windzarko]

They should give an heirloom gun called Vintage Natascha

Except Natascha users need to BUUUUURRRRRNNN

 

[Chuchurocket]

My thoughts so far:

Mage: Fire is tonnes of fun, feels quite like shadow priest in a sense as a lot of it is Dot Management, good dps output and more fun than my old arcane 2buttondpsplz spec. Frost on the otherhand has had a nerfbat applied pretty hard, ive not got any specifics because havent had much time to look it over but crit burst it relies on has been reduced and my overall dmg seems down (1.5k frostbolt...wtf)

Warrior: Only have arms pvp experience of this patch so far and i must say....balls deep in fun even though no piercing howl and 10yd range for demo shout is making me weep. We lost Execute proc ability but it feels like the burst is better, with MS doing hefty dmg along with HS. Overall im liking it.

Shadow Priest: Blizzard, BC is forgiven. I log on with 1k extra dummy dps, nomnmnom DoT clipping is an issue no more really. Shadow Word: Death is making my healers worry but im luvzing it, though im still stuck in the old rotation might need to incorporate the Shadow Orbs more. Not pvped yet but im loving the pve side of things a lot. (spawning mini-mes when i run is cool )

Shaman: NB im levelling her (76 atm) Elemental seems to hit like a roundhouse from Chuck Norris, queueing up Fulmination and Lava Burst crits always fun Enhancement, not had too much time with it atm but it doesnt feel different atm maybe im just missing something.

Paladin: NB im levelling him (48 atm) Respecced retri for a change (was prot) and so atm ive got a 1her which is gimping my dmg output but the class feels good to use, keeping track of holy power isnt such a big deal. Not much more to add

Other classes ive not bothered tinkering atm, all in due time i guess. In short good show Blizz even if it is buggier than fly paper in the amazon (audio lags, lags in general and name plate bugs which has gotten me killed many a time so far)

P.S. Im a nub so if you disagree with my post....youre probably right ^^

 

[Huung]

My thoughts so far:
Shaman: NB im levelling her (76 atm) Elemental seems to hit like a roundhouse from Chuck Norris, queueing up Fulmination and Lava Burst crits always fun Enhancement, not had too much time with it atm but it doesnt feel different atm maybe im just missing something.

Tbf, the only real change enh have is that LL is actually now one of our best abilities, and we drop searing as opposed to magma. The priority queue has dropped from 11/12 things down to 6, and we've actually got some free GCDs now. We're now gemming agi as opposed to haste, but really, in terms of major mechanics, nothing has changed

 

[Madrak]

atm i hate playing tanky druid but i will see how it goes later on but till now i dont realy like it.
But the stuff for a prot palading are realy cool i have been playing my lvl 72 pally again becose of that it's realy cool. Shammy? Dunno not tryed dind look at the speccs yet.

Cheers,

Mad-man

 

[thatbloke]

Other classes ive not bothered tinkering atm, all in due time i guess. In short good show Blizz even if it is buggier than fly paper in the amazon (audio lags, lags in general and name plate bugs which has gotten me killed many a time so far)

P.S. Im a nub so if you disagree with my post....youre probably right ^^

Fae posted a potential solution to audio lag issues here - might be worth you checking that out