The beginning of the end of Gearscore

[Windzarko]

Yeah and you went splot on Muradin, I remember that quite vividly.

Oh do you, now? You mean, that one time I tanked him a bit under two weeks ago? See, if you remembered from earlier on than that, that'd be strange seeing as I'd NEVER DONE IT before then.

And no, GS is NOT a good way of assessing general gearing level until it shouts warnings that something in the gear (be it the actual gear, the enchants or the gemming) is flawed. It generates a number. A flawed, underminable number which gives zero indication of whether the person knows how to string together something resembling a rotation or sits there inactive half the time and dies in fire.

There's a reason that I consider serious GS users to be worse than what I'd have to scrape off my boots after a long walk through a field of diarrhetic cows, and that's that the mod gets abused to hell and back by vast swathes of morons who are too stupid to realise how fundamentally flawed the mod is for what they're using it for, and yet other intelligent people I'd expect better of try to defend it.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Its clear you've had a rough time with rejection* due to this addon, and perhaps you're right it will need an update before it can handle limited requests, and hopefully people will go bk to wowheroes, wowhead and beimba until, and not pick it up when its fixed. Myself i have never used the addon, and i dont hold it against people that do, sure i think they're dicks, and i see them abusing it(by setting gear levels too high), but i rarely use it to judge their personality, i suspect if i was not in the 5th guild on my realm(one boss behind 2nd-4th guilds) i might run into this addon alot more.

You're being too agressive towards the people that use/support this addon, when its just a few bad apples that abuse it that ruin the reputations of all the other people using it for casually informative information gathering.


PS, you ave the right idea about stopping people using it in raids, like the addon which "has placed a fish feast" - This one causes just as much lag lol.

 

[Zooggy]

Hoy,

i dont hold it against people that do, sure i think they're dicks

The mind boggles...

Cheers,
J.

 

[SwampFae]

[Response] The beginning of the end of Gearscore

GearScore was first meant as a joke by Blizzard's WoW Dev Team.
Then someone made an actual GearScore addon.

The idea behind it was good. But alas, yes, it is majorly flawed as it does indeed not count in all of the statistics, including flaws, before displaying them in the end result after the query.
What GearScore does is to give you a (VERY) rough estimate on the basic numbers and that is about it, leaving out the rest as it is not designed to look for anything else.

This:

GS is NOT a good way of assessing general gearing level until it shouts warnings that something in the gear (be it the actual gear, the enchants or the gemming) is flawed. It generates a number. A flawed, underminable number which gives zero indication of whether the person knows how to string together something resembling a rotation or sits there inactive half the time and dies in fire.

So in short: Started as a good idea. But in practice, it isn't a truly viable way of assessing all of the needed information.

 

[Windzarko]

Its clear you've had a rough time with rejection* due to this addon

Never once been rejected from a group based on Gearscore, or any other addon, or even the old "link achievement" stuff. Only rejections I've had were trying to get into VoA runs when the raid leader was the same class as me

and perhaps you're right it will need an update before it can handle limited requests, and hopefully people will go bk to wowheroes, wowhead and beimba until, and not pick it up when its fixed.

If what they said on WoWAce was anything to go by, it'll need some sort of update to avoid bugging out if you try to inspect several people in quick succession. Something about the mods currently not knowing how to handle no results returning from the query.

Also... Wowhead? Does that have some sort of checking tool? I thought it was just a database of all the stuff in the game, plus talent calculators and such?

like the addon which "has placed a fish feast" - This one causes just as much lag lol.

Umm... which addon is that? Or am I being thick and missing a joke?

 

[Skcornnelg]

Also... Wowhead? Does that have some sort of checking tool? I thought it was just a database of all the stuff in the game, plus talent calculators and such?

Wowhead Profiler

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Never once been rejected from a group based on Gearscore, or any other addon, or even the old "link achievement" stuff. Only rejections I've had were trying to get into VoA runs when the raid leader was the same class as me

Same for me, exactly. I admit that comment was goad

I also hate raid leaders that wont let other specs of their class in (if applicable).

Umm... which addon is that? Or am I being thick and missing a joke?

Its an addon that checks peoples buffs, the last guild i was in ran it, and i;d get /w you have no feast or /w you have not flask, and it would check tanks for thorns and what not, it also announced who and when a fish feast was placed in /ra /rw, and whent he feast was about to expire. The addon was all well and good, but it caused guilds with it to expience lag and be unable to raid while others could, major culprits of this were the addon above, gearscore and quest helper.

The guild i am in just trusts that ppl will do everything correctly, this is alot better than the tyranny of my last guild.

 

[Windzarko]

Its an addon that checks peoples buffs, the last guild i was in ran it, and i;d get /w you have no feast or /w you have not flask, and it would check tanks for thorns and what not, it also announced who and when a fish feast was placed in /ra /rw, and whent he feast was about to expire.

Ah, kinda like Rank Watch for buffs, then. I check on that stuff manually, wouldn't want it harassing people over whispers >_>

 

[Angelic]

Well, I think what I think and won´t bother posting here anymore, as this is not a debate based on facts (as we all know what exactly the addon does) but rather on their interpretation, which is fundamentally subjective and therefore not suitable for consenzus.

Oh and Arithidrimme, I do remember so from earlier on and indeed it was you tanking him. You may not remember, but I do

 

[Bradley]

Ari's memory might not be great for most things, but for WoW and his playing it, it is unsurpassed. You are wrong.

 

[Ashya]

Ari's memory might not be great for most things, but for WoW and his playing it, it is unsurpassed. You are wrong.

Nah, he's just Angelic. Which now I think about it, is the same.

 

[Priam]

Sometimes I like the addon, but sometimes I just plain despise it.

I generally don't have any trouble getting into groups, so no worries there. However I do feel that the addon provided me with better groups in general, if you get what i'm saying. Less bullshit, more (succesfull) (pug)raids.

However I still get pissed of for seeing perfectly good players get rejected based on gearscore alone. Fundamentaly wrong, as I still do feel that you can't judge a book by it's cover. After all, we (probably all) often see good players with a 4k gearscore outplay the ones with a higher one. Not just in DPS/HPS/threat/Skill, but also gear/stat choices and gemming.

 

[Grafol]

Well that reminds me about my DK, i was in a WSG, and i completely owned a DK, (i could see the relentless helm, and hé had 32k life). My DK Got 25k and 4.3k gs. Anyways we we're both unbuffed.