what a douche!

[Angelic]

Well, real money can be exchanged for fake gold, WHICH CAN BE AGAIN EXCHANGED FOR REAL MONEY or at least items worth real money to other people. In this sense, the fake gold is no less fake than the pieces of paper we call bank notes. It is merely a IOU of sort, much like real money is.
I would also like to argue, that whatever values you may place in a car could either be attained otherwise (transport of goods etc) or simply may not be of any value of someone else. Admittedly, the majority of people in the world would value car over, say, a well-developed WoW account, but there are those who wouldn't. That is the only reason a bank wouldn't accept a WoW account as a counter-safety for a loan - they might not be able to re-sell it to gain the money you owed them in case things go wrong, unlike with a car.

Meh, I'm losing track of what the argument is about as well My point being, I think it's just as acceptable to spend money on "virtual" goods as it's on "real" ones.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Not sure why you're so hung up on prices? You didn't mention them in the original post and I've said nothing about price.

I'm not:

He spent money on gaming and bought two new computers so he could experience better graphics. In 2007, Van Cleave had three different WoW accounts, each at a cost of $14.95 (£9) a month. A secret PayPal account paid for two of them so his wife would not hound him about the cost. He spent $224 in real money to buy fake gold so he could get an "epic-level sword" and some "top-tier armour" for his avatar.

But the author of the article seems to think 224 is some high amount.

Regardless, I really don't understand what you're going on about so I'm done here unless somebody else wants to add something worth discussing.

Well now you know how I feel about your replies, always contrary. Why i cant put you on ignore, why!!

/cry

 

[Xylak]

 

[BiG D]

I would also like to argue, that whatever values you may place in a car could either be attained otherwise (transport of goods etc) or simply may not be of any value of someone else. Admittedly, the majority of people in the world would value car over, say, a well-developed WoW account, but there are those who wouldn't.

I think you almost hit on it here. You may not value a car, but a car can reasonably be called a necessity. The value is in direct correlation with a bank's ability to sell it, yes, but the necessity isn't.

If the question had been "how is this any different than buying a huge brick of cocaine" I think we'd be a lot closer to the same page.

 

[Angelic]

Quite important thing we're neglecting is the actual price difference between what the man spent on virtual goods and the price of a car (especially a 30k GBP car).

Also, why are we actually arguing about a car? The e-gold never claimed to be an expense on a neccessity (such as a car (if a car is a neccessary item for you, which for many people isn't), or food, for instance), but an expense on fun, personal happiness (such as, say, an expensive handbag).

Now were we to compare an expensive handbag and e-gold of equal value, would you still argue that the handbag is inherently more valuable and people buying it are more rational and/or smart than those purchasing e-gold? I claim that it isn't (inherently more valuable). Whatever value may be in the manufactor of said bag or whatever is purely subjective.

 

[BiG D]

Also, why are we actually arguing about a car?

My point exactly.

 

[waterproofbob]

My view on it is the same as buying anything that enhances your gaming.

For FPS I have a good mouse a good headset and a nice mouse mat that I like.
For mmos except the need for perhaps a kb that has easy macro support you might not need to spend the money on peripherals. You may however be very able to benefit from spending this sort of money on gaining a similar edge in an mmo.

Now not really saying I would, I actually see gaining the shiny things as sort of the point of mmos but it could be seen as pretty comparable.

 

[Chuchurocket]

Also, why are we actually arguing about a car?

Thought id whip something up to highlight it

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Also, why are we actually arguing about a car?

My point exactly.

Now were we to compare an expensive handbag and e-gold of equal value, would you still argue that the handbag is inherently more valuable and people buying it are more rational and/or smart than those purchasing e-gold? I claim that it isn't (inherently more valuable). Whatever value may be in the manufactor of said bag or whatever is purely subjective.

Because cars are an item which range from low priced necessary items to high priced unnecessary.

@BiG D, angelics statement goes for many items including cars, yet for some reason you have to single out my example as incorrect. Nothing i say is ever good enough for you. Expensive handbag, is fine, but expensive car - oh no cars are necessary there's no such thing as an expensive car.

He spent $224 in real money to buy fake gold so he could get an "epic-level sword" and some "top-tier armour" for his avatar.

How many times must i post this quote before its understandable that i think it is strange that somehow they think 224 is a lot of money to spend on a hobby, why did they not just say "he spent real money".

It doesn't matter what I write.

You're wrong!

But.

You're wrong!

This is what I get all the time always. I am SICK of it.
Every post I make i'm just waiting to be ridiculed by YOU.
And to make matters worse I cant put you on ignore; instant fix.

 

[BiG D]

They didn't SAY it was a lot of money. They stated an amount and what he bought with that amount. It's a FACTUAL STATEMENT.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

They didn't SAY it was a lot of money. They stated an amount and what he bought with that amount. It's a FACTUAL STATEMENT.

No, there are variables, they didnt have to state the amount, it could have just been "real money".

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen

Fine, ill fuck off then.

 

[Elincia]

Wow, guys, chill please. This discussion is taking a turn for the worst.


The point is: Wether the money is well spend is subjective.
Some people say, if gaming is a hobby 224 gbp isn't much. Some say money spend on hobbys is wasted. The Dutch say all money spend without gaining more money (Profit) is lost money.

Anyway, I am Dutch so I say: This guys lost his money to bullcrap.

*Goes off to buy a car*



Now play nice, guys

 

[Belfa]

We just read a post on how sad some guy was destroying his life by a game.So come on chill please

 

[Chuchurocket]

Here you go Elincia:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...radius/1500/page/4/postcode/cm129xb?logcode=p

^^

 

[Angelic]

here you go elincia:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...radius/1500/page/4/postcode/cm129xb?logcode=p

^^

ONE POUND TOO EXPENSIVE, YOU RIPOFF!



Also caps.

 

[Chuchurocket]

Better start farming like a Chinese prisoner then for that last pound

 

[Wol]

money schmomey.

Did anyone else think "if this guys got a gaming addiction, and is ignoring his family, then who's getting his wife pregnant" :|

 

[Chuchurocket]

Guess he even whips his epic mace out once in a while. Every "avatar" has to get his mount at some level

 

[Angelic]

Guess he even whips his epic mace out once in a while. Every "avatar" has to get his mount at some level

Giggedy.

 

[Zhar]

In my honest opinion, this man isn't comparing the gold he buys to a car that he could've bought with the same money.
His priorities are simply different to that of others. Maybe in an extreme way, but it still follows the basic principles of how some people prefer a certain kind of coffee table to a certain kind of diner table. But since they always have diner on the couch, they don't need a diner table!
The man simply values World of Warcraft money over something else he could've bought, because buying/owning/spending the WoW gold grants him a certain feeling of satisfaction.