[Tech] X Ray imagers in airports
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thatbloke
Junior Administrator
I see that trail of thought as a potential INFINITE LOOP tbh
That's my point.
Silk
Well-Known Member
I'd only ever be ok with this if:
i, I could see the person looking at me
ii, The person was female
Same reason as I get a female doctor or nurse to inspect my bits if they need such attention.
If it's some random dude watching me I'm happy to say fine, I won't fly anymore. It's not right to have some guy perving on a woman's wobblies.
i, I could see the person looking at me
ii, The person was female
Same reason as I get a female doctor or nurse to inspect my bits if they need such attention.
If it's some random dude watching me I'm happy to say fine, I won't fly anymore. It's not right to have some guy perving on a woman's wobblies.
Solemn
New Member
I think this should be compulsory if it has any chance of preventing armed terrorists getting on planes. People still have the option not to fly. As for "certain individuals" not having to do this, due to religious beliefs extra, they should have the option of being stripped searched, or just not fly.
Flying is a privilege not a right, and I feel that the airport should have the authority to protect their passengers. After all, no one is forcing anyone to get on the plane to begin with!
Silk
Well-Known Member
Terrorists don't have to be armed to achieve their goals.
It's nothing more than (another) invasion of privacy.
But.. yes it can be compulsory, so long as it isn't a man perving on women; that's just morally wrong in my book.
Solemn
New Member
Like i said IF it has any chance of preventing teririosm then yea, i think its a great idea.
And tbh I very much doubt the person watching would be preving.. And just because its a guy... that doesn't automatically make him a pervert, there would be just as much chance if it were a woman.
PsiSoldier
Well-Known Member
Must be a pretty odd person that 'pervs' over peoples' sillhouettes.
Also, are suggesting one scanner for females manned by females, and another for males manned by males? Because that's just silly.
So then you wouldn't be opposed to full cavity searches for everyone boarding a plane?
Solemn
New Member
Well that would be the option just for the people unwilling to go through the x-ray scanner
Ahey,
Full cavity searches can't be conducted on me while I go about my business, nor can they be done without seriously wasting my time.
Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass about my "privacy", but I do value my time and my freedom of movement.
I know you place a high value on privacy, but that's no reason to change the scale of the argument.
Cheers,
J.
Full cavity searches can't be conducted on me while I go about my business, nor can they be done without seriously wasting my time.
Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass about my "privacy", but I do value my time and my freedom of movement.
I know you place a high value on privacy, but that's no reason to change the scale of the argument.
Cheers,
J.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
Is this true? I mean, it sure seems a sound thing, ive just never come accross this before. Last time i flew(about 1 1/2 hr) i certainly didnt feel privileged, hell the delays were over an hour in the aircraft both ways and i couldnt get that blackandwhite aircrash vids out of my head during landing.
Wol
In Cryo Sleep
What about if the person who is checking the images is a woman, but is a lesbian? Is she allowed to see women? Is she allowed to see men?
Would you feel "perved" (if looking at an x-ray is 'perving') upon if you were a woman and were being looked at by another woman who was a lesbian?
Or is it going to be : "Queue A if you want to be looked at by a woman, Queue B if you want to be looked at by a dude, Queue C if you want to strip off in front of an actual person (with Queue C.1 and C.2 for male / female ...)"
I still don't get how people still seem to think that looking at an X ray is perving! *headdesk*
Ghostwolf67
Well-Known Member
If the choice is inconvenience and make feel perved 1,000,000 people to catch the one SOB who is carrying knives, guns or bombs onto an aricraft then personally i dont see the issue. Your putting personal feelings of 'oh someone might see my private parts' over the possibility of the plane being hijaked, crashed, or blown up. No-one worries if the mortician see your private parts.
Hey,
Thing is, we don't know, now, do we?
There's a famous business quote that says no one ever gets credit for solving problems before they appear. Same thing applies here. No one person/technique/policy ever gets credit for preventing a hijacker from even showing up.
And yet, when they do show up, it's already kind of too late, isn't it?
Cheers,
J.
Thing is, we don't know, now, do we?
There's a famous business quote that says no one ever gets credit for solving problems before they appear. Same thing applies here. No one person/technique/policy ever gets credit for preventing a hijacker from even showing up.
And yet, when they do show up, it's already kind of too late, isn't it?
Cheers,
J.
thatbloke
Junior Administrator
Conversely, how many have been prevented due to these measures acting as a deterrent?
That is exactly the problem here. No one is bothering to fund a solution that will work for the future. Everything they come up with is to prevent a very very specific event that has happened in the past. Banning liquids and checking people's shoes only works until someone comes up with a new way to bring a bomb onto the plane. Money should be spent on countermeasures that work regardless of the attack. Things like behavioural pattern training for guards at the airport, and just basic intelligence - police work - to catch people who want to blow up planes, or anything else, BEFORE their plan reaches the stage where they're in the airport with a bomb...
Depends what we're talking about here. Attacks on planes? Probably a few have been discouraged. Instead, they'll just bomb a subway, or drive a terrible carbomb into the front of an airport. You're not preventing attacks, you're just making them happen somewhere else.
thatbloke
Junior Administrator
And the problem with that, just like my statement, how do you know?
Things like that are impossible to track.