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Missy
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Yea i agree! we are suppost to be the best trained even though we are one of the smallest!! hmm is chinas army ant good?
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elDiablo
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British. Easily. Three letters: SAS.
Pubic_Warrior
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china have over 1 million men so that could easily over-run any army, the SAS are good but other countrys have their versions i.e navy seals, delta force, GIGN, spetsnaz etc
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Fi$hy
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Germany, best equipped
Nanor
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Americans? They are very well equiped and have plenty of recruits although they lack in training.
I would like to say Irish, although, we don't have a lot of numbers. According to the website, they seem to be pretty well equipped, their navy and air force seem to be pretty much non existant. Though in our defence, we've only really had 100 years to set up our own army, though the famine didn't help the numbers.
I would like to say Irish, although, we don't have a lot of numbers. According to the website, they seem to be pretty well equipped, their navy and air force seem to be pretty much non existant. Though in our defence, we've only really had 100 years to set up our own army, though the famine didn't help the numbers.
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Fi$hy
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Nanor said:
In size yeah, U.S is great.
But effectiveness per individual soldier? The problem with the USA is it is very self-sufficiant, instead of using Foreign equipment it designs its own, whilst this is great in terms of employment and spending, it's rediculous.
Take the Abrams. As the M60 MBT came to the end of it's life the USA needs a replacement MBT. In Europe the Challenger 2 and Leopard 2 are in production, both superior tanks. Yet the US Builds it's own
The Humvee. A huge gas guzzler, and unfortunetly not "quite" strong enough, the result "up-armoured" humvee's with sheet metal strapped to the side. The lack of armour wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't such a massive target. It's also slightly too large for most Iraqi cities and roads.
Early M16's. Could have bought and used the G3, yet designed it's own, before the M16A2, the M16 was one of the shoddiest weapons ever.
This isn't all true, in the air and by sea the US rules. But anyway equipment quality aside, the US reigns supreme due to Quantity of equipment.
Pubic_Warrior
In Cryo Sleep
dont be daft, its quite the opposite, the 1st M16 were lame in vietnam the M16 jammed like bob marly, but the M16A2 was well top, the US marines are usng M16A4s and that rifle is the best rifle ever made, its better than anything the british can produce and we should consider buying M16s, however the standard bullet is 5.56mm but will be increased to 6.7mm for better stopping power and afganis have been reported to stand up and run off after taking a 5.56mm round to the chest, which shows its lame
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LynxGB
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LOL - you all have it wrong.
Its not what equipment you have its the training you have.
I givew you an example.
USMC vs SAS
USMC come bombing in buggies and tanks etc, SAS been there for 6 months already hiding in a whole,
1 SAS sopldier creeps out at NIGHT cuts all USMC guys throats. JOb Done.
its not how many tanks u got or who's rifles are the best it's so the training. British Troops are the most respected of any nation, they also train many of the other nations forces\special forces.
Its not what equipment you have its the training you have.
I givew you an example.
USMC vs SAS
USMC come bombing in buggies and tanks etc, SAS been there for 6 months already hiding in a whole,
1 SAS sopldier creeps out at NIGHT cuts all USMC guys throats. JOb Done.
its not how many tanks u got or who's rifles are the best it's so the training. British Troops are the most respected of any nation, they also train many of the other nations forces\special forces.
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LynxGB
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Pubic your also wrong, lol, UN will not allow us to have any rifles with bullet sizes over 5.56 only GPMG etc and the like can have higher calibres.
SA80 is a fine rifle, now its had its guts stripped an re-worked, also LSW is great and nothing beats a GPMG
Where did you get told being shot by a 5.56 in the chest you can get up and run?????? Your a crazy boy!
SA80 is a fine rifle, now its had its guts stripped an re-worked, also LSW is great and nothing beats a GPMG
Where did you get told being shot by a 5.56 in the chest you can get up and run?????? Your a crazy boy!
Pubic_Warrior
In Cryo Sleep
why do you bum the SAS you think they are invinsable, my mums mate was in the SAS and he died in the falklands and they seem to get captured easily, there is no best nations army and if UK and USA went to war we would get pwned and dont say the SAS will own them because our numbers are so low compared to them and its not down to training its the ammount, USA and China can spam troops, as long as they can kill
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Fi$hy
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Fi$hy said:
Is reading still on the N.C
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LynxGB
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lol - still Pubic you have so much to learn. lol.
When you know the facts try again, lol
When you know the facts try again, lol
Pubic_Warrior
In Cryo Sleep
its true buddy, in the hills of afganistan where you can see your target a mile away, the power is lame, and the SA80 is shit as is the LSW, both jam and i know iv fired both, the GPMG is a rip off from the FN MAG, also 7,62 isnt the biggest round u silly man, 50. cal is and you could even survive from bein hit by one of those, read Black Hawk Down and you will see what i mean by 5.56 is a lame round
Pubic_Warrior
In Cryo Sleep
i no more than you, so learn your subject then post up
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LynxGB
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Ok tell me how you know more than me. like I said "les with bullet sizes over 5.56 only GPMG etc and the like can have higher calibres" Higher calibre including 50. cal Sniper rounds
Black Hawk Down - yet another over emphasised americain load of crap!
I have fired them all, and the SA8o isnt terrible and the LSW has a longer velocity any way.
LOL and the FN is the GPMG fool!
Also if I shot you with a 5.56 round in the chest I really would like to see you get up!
Black Hawk Down - yet another over emphasised americain load of crap!
I have fired them all, and the SA8o isnt terrible and the LSW has a longer velocity any way.
LOL and the FN is the GPMG fool!
Also if I shot you with a 5.56 round in the chest I really would like to see you get up!
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Fi$hy
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Easy that's a bit of an aggressive tone, Lynx's comment was directed to my post, SWITCH TO THREADED
But yeah, the 5.56 is a weak round in that it's small and thus lacks stopping power (because it makes a nice wound and goes straight through the target)
The 7.76 or whatever, yes it is a heavier round, makes a bigger inpact and thus has more stopping power (like a shotgun) at the same time, it makes a nastier wound.
The 50. is heavily regulated, as it creates a wound that is largely impossible by a medic to tend, thus Geneva arn't fond of it. (The .50 is an anti vehicle round supposedly)
But yeah, 5.56 lacks power, but at the same time it's lightweight meaning you can carry more.
The 5.56 got introduced after ww2 when commanders found the larger rounds were "too" powerful, and if soldiers used a smaller round they could carry a lot more. If I got stuck in combat, I'd much rather have 200 rounds of 5.56 than 100 of 7...
Finally, a smaller round means a bigger clip. The G3A3 in BF2 fires a bigger round, thus it's magazine is only 20 rounds. There's advantages and disadvantages of all kinds of ammo.
But yeah, the 5.56 is a weak round in that it's small and thus lacks stopping power (because it makes a nice wound and goes straight through the target)
The 7.76 or whatever, yes it is a heavier round, makes a bigger inpact and thus has more stopping power (like a shotgun) at the same time, it makes a nastier wound.
The 50. is heavily regulated, as it creates a wound that is largely impossible by a medic to tend, thus Geneva arn't fond of it. (The .50 is an anti vehicle round supposedly)
But yeah, 5.56 lacks power, but at the same time it's lightweight meaning you can carry more.
The 5.56 got introduced after ww2 when commanders found the larger rounds were "too" powerful, and if soldiers used a smaller round they could carry a lot more. If I got stuck in combat, I'd much rather have 200 rounds of 5.56 than 100 of 7...
Finally, a smaller round means a bigger clip. The G3A3 in BF2 fires a bigger round, thus it's magazine is only 20 rounds. There's advantages and disadvantages of all kinds of ammo.
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