Controlling the christmas No 1

Haven

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thatbloke

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yea, according to the radio yesterday RATM are currently WINNING, but the CD version of the X Factor stuffs is coming out today so that might change
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
I love the way that amazon are 30% the price of apple/iTunes.

Just think - buy 10 copies for the same price as a pint or so, and help save christmas!
 
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elDiablo

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Those videos are excellent! We were talking about this in the office yesterday, and decided to go for RATM. But those are awesome. Chris is even tweeting the X Factor - Killing In The Name Of now. So cookies for you, sir!
 

Ronin Storm

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I like the alternative lyrics for the chorus.

"F*** you, I won't tidy my bedroom! F*** you, I won't tidy my bedroom!" etc, etc

The beat pattern is the same, works beautifully. :D

(Oh, and bought. Turns out I don't have a copy already so was 29p well spent.)
 

Nanor

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I just listened to an interview with Joe McElderry and promptly bought Killing in the Name of. :)
 

waterproofbob

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Well everyone at our store has bought killing in the name of whether they wanted to or not.
But yeah Sony are totally loving this.
 

T-Bone

In Cryo Sleep
I bought three copies and it was the best pound I ever spent.

Though, I can't help feeling there is a certain degree of irony in people buying "Killing in the name of" because they're being told to in order to beat X-Factor. :P
 

thatbloke

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I bought three copies and it was the best pound I ever spent.

Though, I can't help feeling there is a certain degree of irony in people buying "Killing in the name of" because they're being told to in order to beat X-Factor. :P

I think it's more a statement that we are fed up of getting the same piece of shit song given to us for Xmas no.1 when the person hasn't really earned it. So they won a talent show? BIG DEAL. NOW GO EARN YOUR CHRISTMAS NO.1 BY RELEASING SOME ORIGINAL MATERIAL.

I would have no problem with the X-Factor winner being Xmas no.1 if they did something original, and it wasn't handed to them on a plate.
 

BiG D

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So the solution is to buy a song by one of the most stuck-in-a-rut bands ever?
 

Silk

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You know, I think this is all aimed at Simon but really it affects the like of Joe most of all. Is it fair?

So it's a talent competition, and a reality show, and yes it's becoming far too cliche and same-ey

But is it the artists fault that they end up in an unbreakable contract to sing dull monotomous songs? Would they ever become famous trying to vie for a recoding contract through "normal" means? Is the x factor "easier" than said "normal" means? Is it easy to sing in front of the public from day 1, when you are simply a nobody?

I like the x factor in such that it uproots talent. I hate the x factor in such that is forces said talent down an unavoidable, shit, predictable and boring recording contract, releasing songs that I'd never in a million years buy. But even with that said, I can't deny that some of the folks that have won have actually been talented. Some.

In past 5 years I think I've "liked" Leona, and Joe. Because they can sing. But of course once they win, I lose interest, because they are forced to sing utter tripe for the masses. Leona wasted on boring ballads when she has a voice that can pull off anything. Joe, well, who knows, but - he can sing, that's for sure.

As for all this shit about rise against the machine. Interesting. So to protest against the sheep, you become a sheep.

I didn't vote on the x factor, once. I do watch it, for various reasons (lol'ing at the awkward arguments, and the occasional wow moment when an artist pulls off something special). And I won't buy the single, nor the rise against the machine single. Guess I'm not a sheep. ;)
 
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elDiablo

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...So to protest against the sheep, you become a sheep...

Think of it more as proving to people who think they can control something (in this case the Xmas no. 1) that they really shouldn't be so naive. Or maybe I'm just being to hippy-ish. Whatever. I hate X Factor for the same reasons you do, and just don't like it for any reason, so I find this quite amusing!
 

Silk

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Think of it more as proving to people who think they can control something (in this case the Xmas no. 1) that they really shouldn't be so naive. Or maybe I'm just being to hippy-ish. Whatever. I hate X Factor for the same reasons you do, and just don't like it for any reason, so I find this quite amusing!

But you are funding the same company in your protests, thus pointless.. well actually you make them even happier as there is cash flow where there would have been none :/

best thing you can do is abstain altogether, if you really care that much.
 

Wol

In Cryo Sleep
But you are funding the same company in your protests

Not really. One goes through Syco, and one doesn't. I'm happy with the latter in my opinion. The fact that sony covers so many artists is neither here nor there in the matter. Its not sony that people are protesting against.

If cowell didn't care about xmas number one, why dont they run x-factor earlier in the year, rather than coincidentally having it finish the weekend before the xmas number 1 slot......(its not finishing the same week as strictly, so its not a ratings thing between the bbc). I think he does care, otherwise he wouldn't do it surely?

The main thing to come out of the x-factor is the people who come second. JLS have been everywhere, are really good and they came 2nd last year. Girls aloud came 2nd to..... some people who time has forgotten. Theyre the lucky ones *not* bound by stupid contracts, and who aren't forced into anything, and can get a better pick / say in what happens.

As bloke says - I don't mind the x-factor person being xmas number 1 if they actually sang a proper CHRISTMAS song, not this mindnumbingly boring fake autobiographical drivel that they make them sing. The last decent christmas song was the darkness - christmas time, back in 03, which was beaten to the number 1 slot by mr depressing with his durge of "maaaaad wooooorld" which did actually make me slightly more suicidal than I already was at that age.......
 

waterproofbob

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My personal feeling on this is that if the xfactor chappy is actually any good then not getting the christmas No. 1 would be a positive thing for him. He is not missing out, the guy is making a giant pile of money regardless and doesn't have to have his first and probable only success as the mantle that is essentially a joke prize.

If he is any good and I'll admit I've never heard him sing so have no clue. But if he is I hope he comes 2nd and perhaps is able to make some half decent music.

This is all publicity for him at the end of the day. If I was him I'd be loving this right now. The xfactor lovers may they dribble in peace will buy the single whatever, he makes money and isn't burdened by the bane that is getting a Christmas No.1
 

VibroAxe

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As bloke says - I don't mind the x-factor person being xmas number 1 if they actually sang a proper CHRISTMAS song, not this mindnumbingly boring fake autobiographical drivel that they make them sing. The last decent christmas song was the darkness - christmas time, back in 03, which was beaten to the number 1 slot by mr depressing with his durge of "maaaaad wooooorld" which did actually make me slightly more suicidal than I already was at that age.......

I'm with wol on this,m what the hell happened to a Christmas number one that at least mentioned christmas. Cowell driving out random shit which is usually a cover of someone elses song.... what the hell

*Edit*

BBC News said:
Meanwhile, in an interview with music magazine NME, Simon Cowell - who is behind the X Factor single - said that the ITV1 show had "done everyone a favour" by adding some life to the festive charts.

How on earth Cowell reckon steam rollering a single through the charts is "adding some life" i do no know
 

Silk

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I think it's really sad tbh :/

I didn't want xfactor to "win" but I don't particularly like a song which is all about telling people "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" being a Christmas no. 1 either.

I miss the days where cheesy Christmas crap got to number 1.

But nah, now we have an act of rebellion causing an average song to get there instead. Seems somewhere along the way people forgot what Christmas was about. Peace on earth, good will to all men and all that. I'm not religious, mind.

Also I find it disturbing people seem to have forgotten Christmas is primarilly for kids. so yeah.. erer FUCK YOU kids, we won't do what you tell us. FUCK YOU!
 
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