Zhar
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But that's wrong.
First sightings of a "Steam Box"!
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But that's wrong.
Nanor
Well-Known Member
What was wrong with the Skyrim version on the PC?
KillCrazy
Active Member
The game played fine for the most part but the menu system wasn't changed at all. It was horrendous and ugly for a PC user.
thatbloke
Junior Administrator
Yea, but that's just lazyness. I disliked Skyrim for a number of reasons, and the fact that it DEFAULTED to using the 360 pad I happened to have plugged in as the default controller, and in doing so IGNORED all keyboard and mouse input, confusing the crap out of me for the first couple of times I ran it, really didn't help either.
Certainly not the worst port ever but definitely not the best either.
Zhar
New Member
I am losing all hope in you guys.
Skyrim was a terrible port.
The UI was absolute wank that took more than months to fix through mods, because the mod kit got delayed 5 centuries.
And not to mention how casualised it was, the entire game screamed "we want the call of duty audience". This is very transparent when you look at the character skill customisation and the depth of NPC interactions. The only trope it had was "you can hunt super special dragons", which ended up being a blatant lie.
But skyrim isn't the topic of this thread. So I would like to add anyone who calls himself a serious gamer knows than console gaming is inferior to PC gaming.
Skyrim was a terrible port.
The UI was absolute wank that took more than months to fix through mods, because the mod kit got delayed 5 centuries.
And not to mention how casualised it was, the entire game screamed "we want the call of duty audience". This is very transparent when you look at the character skill customisation and the depth of NPC interactions. The only trope it had was "you can hunt super special dragons", which ended up being a blatant lie.
But skyrim isn't the topic of this thread. So I would like to add anyone who calls himself a serious gamer knows than console gaming is inferior to PC gaming.
Nanor
Well-Known Member
You can't come in with brazen statements and then claim we can't discuss them because it isn't a Skyrim thread.
The UI was not absolute wank. The UI was tailored to consoles, yes but still perfectly fine to use. While it wasn't perfect not once did I stop and lament the unplayability of the game due to the menu system. Also, the mod kit was released 3 months after release on Feb 7th. Hardly five centuries.
That doesn't make it a bad port it makes it a bad game.
In certain aspects, yes. When it comes to an MMO PC gaming wins. However, when it comes to an epic storytelling RPG (such as Lost Odyssey which I'm playing) a console is going to win.
The UI was not absolute wank. The UI was tailored to consoles, yes but still perfectly fine to use. While it wasn't perfect not once did I stop and lament the unplayability of the game due to the menu system. Also, the mod kit was released 3 months after release on Feb 7th. Hardly five centuries.
That doesn't make it a bad port it makes it a bad game.
In certain aspects, yes. When it comes to an MMO PC gaming wins. However, when it comes to an epic storytelling RPG (such as Lost Odyssey which I'm playing) a console is going to win.
thatbloke
Junior Administrator
Lost Odyssey is a frickin AMAZING game.
Such a shame I never managed to finish it, got somewhere on the last disk and came up against a boss that I just could NOT beat. When that happens in an RPG like that I tend to just lose interest (I HATE grinding).
Somewhat relevant to the ongoing discussion: that game really wouldn't work well on a PC unless you used a controller, IMO. A mouse and keyboard doesn't translate that well into the sort of 3D movement and menu option selection that that sort of game thrives on.
CORRECTION: pay a corporation to drag my ass from A to B.Similarly, if you find your legs are too much to manage I won't quarrel with you dragging your ass along the carpet to get from A to B either.
Also no one is going to use a controller in FPS games. GROSS.
You make a good point.
Maybe this sort of discussion should split its analysis into three parts? i.e.
- controllers (e.g. mouse & keyboard, X360 gamepad, traditional joystick, Track IR)
- platform (e.g. X360, home-built PC, shop-bought PC, Steam Box)
- display (e.g. HDTV, flatscreen monitor, Occulus Rift)
Then one can compare and contrast more clearly. After all, some people hate gamepads but love the mouse & keyboard, and vice versa, but when considering a PC platform one can sometimes (often?) have the choice.
Zhar
New Member
Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no quarrels with using a gamepad.
Hell, I use it a lot for emulation and other games such as dark souls.
My problem with the whole console spirit though, is that console gamers are objectively casual gamers. They don't want to spend much time getting into a story or learning gameplay mechanics, they just want to pick up the controller and start playing. Sure there still are a number of console games that aren't catered towards these fools, but you can't ignore the fact that console gaming has a massive negative effect on PC gaming. Just look at the graphical improvements we've seen in the past, say, 6 years. They have practically been non existant. The most graphically stunning game to date is a toss up between Crysis and The Witcher 2, which are both how many years old? This is because developers have been developing games for the consoles, who are still using 8 year old hardware, which already was mediocre at the time of release.
So in my honest opinion, which happens to be a fact, if you take gaming seriously, you have to be a PC gamer.
Hell, I use it a lot for emulation and other games such as dark souls.
My problem with the whole console spirit though, is that console gamers are objectively casual gamers. They don't want to spend much time getting into a story or learning gameplay mechanics, they just want to pick up the controller and start playing. Sure there still are a number of console games that aren't catered towards these fools, but you can't ignore the fact that console gaming has a massive negative effect on PC gaming. Just look at the graphical improvements we've seen in the past, say, 6 years. They have practically been non existant. The most graphically stunning game to date is a toss up between Crysis and The Witcher 2, which are both how many years old? This is because developers have been developing games for the consoles, who are still using 8 year old hardware, which already was mediocre at the time of release.
So in my honest opinion, which happens to be a fact, if you take gaming seriously, you have to be a PC gamer.
Traxata
Junior Administrator
Fortunately it is not a fact.
Maybe your hardware is causing you to believe nothing has progressed, then again maybe not. If you take a look at the latest Crytek(3) engine or Unreal3 which gets so many updates and extras included periodically. Along side of this you have the Dunia engine (farcry2&³) and some amazing engines that the indie companies are building.
The things these engines are capable of is utterly astounding.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
Oh. All right, I can see your reasoning.
Nanor
Well-Known Member
What do you mean take gaming seriously?
Spicypixel
New Member
Conversation about engines looking pretty, not talking about Frostbite 2... oh ok.
Traxata
Junior Administrator
Oh yeah, I forgot to include that one. Another simply astounding Engine.