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A well thought out answer.
SWTOR serious challenger for WOW?
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A well thought out answer.
eMP3Danie
In Cryo Sleep
Gave up on SW:TOR after 1.1 Our guild finished all of the content and to say it was buggy was an understatement.
The way the game reads and uses the data is just down right bad and people generally had performance issues because of it. The game per se but the actual strain it puts on your hard drives. World PVP was bad and I don't believe its been fixed because of this very problem.
I used to get 5 FPS in Hoth until I dissected the games insides. I took out a few key files like ambient sounds and spell effects and appended most of the games data to a ram disk.
This worked and gave me a little over 10 more fps to to PVP but it ruined the look and the feel of the game.
About 50 of us quit the game pretty much 1 week after 1.1 non of us have looked back.
The way the game reads and uses the data is just down right bad and people generally had performance issues because of it. The game per se but the actual strain it puts on your hard drives. World PVP was bad and I don't believe its been fixed because of this very problem.
I used to get 5 FPS in Hoth until I dissected the games insides. I took out a few key files like ambient sounds and spell effects and appended most of the games data to a ram disk.
This worked and gave me a little over 10 more fps to to PVP but it ruined the look and the feel of the game.
About 50 of us quit the game pretty much 1 week after 1.1 non of us have looked back.
Ki!ler-Mk1
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I still use xfire for passive stats gathering which steam still cannot do, its not pronounced crossfire and never has been.
I don't think the xfire stats can be ignored, even if the results are polarised. I think enough people use xfire to give a good indication of the percentage share of who is playing what.
It's a bit like the election polls, they often only ask 1000 people but from this can make predicions of what the adult population of the UK will do on election day.
It's a bit like the election polls, they often only ask 1000 people but from this can make predicions of what the adult population of the UK will do on election day.
Kasatka
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I'd argue that the opposite is the case - MMOs have built in friend tracking and communication (along with VOIP obviously) so id be willing to be only a minority of MMO players use services like x-fire.
The other thing that might polarise those stats are that people with x-fire are more likely to play other games if they see their friends playing them 
Just a thought.
Any stats need to be taken with a pince of salt unless you can guarentee their place of origin.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Just a thought.Any stats need to be taken with a pince of salt unless you can guarentee their place of origin.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Let me explain a bit about data and statistics.
The very fact that MMO players do use x-fire, albeit lets assume they are in the minority, the data is still absolutely valid. That is to say it is factual information. The fact that the percentage stats for MMO players is pretty consistent from day to day, shows that enough data is being gathered to make extrapolation predictions.
For example in looking at the link
http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor
we see that it is based on 2624 players (at time of looking). Now as pointed out by Xylak, there is 1.3 Million subscribers to the game, which means that pathetic 2624 number of SWTOR players is only 0.2% of the total amount who play the game, so yes I agree it does looks like 99.8% of people who play SWTOR don't use xfire, but the 0.2% that do provide useful factual information that can be extrapolated. As I said The fact that the numbers are fairly consistent prove this - I check them everyday believe me they are!
Back to my election comparison there is some 30million people who can vote in the UK, with a pole of 1000 they can predict quite well the result of an election, that is 0.003% a lot less that the 0.2% we have with SWTOR.
xfire stats are far more accurate than you may think my friend.
I am happy to give more explanation if required as there is another point I could make, but am very aware I am ranting on a bit.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
tbh, 1.3 million subscribers is still a LOT
But are they subscribing to EA/Bioware or Star Wars?
Xylak
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Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
No, you didnt understand what i wrote, I read the whole thing when you posted it.
I am not sure how you could have misconstrued this, but i feel i have to defend myself exclusively because i DID read that article.
My meaning was a question of opinion only, only that were they subscribing to the game because it had Star Wars in the title or because it was a big buck EA title made by bioware?
Whatever you imagine i didn't read is in fact incorrect, but i easily F&F your pointless accusation non the less.
Xylak
New Member
Apologies, I understand what your question was now. It wasn't clear that you were referring to the reasons why people sign up rather than whether they were SWTOR or just EA account holders.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
Yeah, it wasn't as clear as it could have been. I hope I didn't come across as necessarily aggressive, if I did I too apologise as well.
I like how this thread has been running since the games release.
Edit: Un-necessarily
I like how this thread has been running since the games release.
Edit: Un-necessarily
Xylak
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Panda with issues...
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This wouldn't affect their income at all though, one way or the other, which is all they care about.
As for star wars, KOTOR I and II were one of the few star wars games that didn't totally suck, the others being the x wing and tie fighter series, the dark forces series, and rare gems like podracer. It's more likely to have sold as KOTOR than Star Wars, if you get what I'm saying.
Slapping 'star wars' on your game is normally an easy way to ensure mediocrity.
