Battlefield 3

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
I hope it's amazing. However I've been burnt too many times now by games that look great and are great for about 10-20 hours of play, then you realise you are doing just the same thing over and over and it's not fun.

Dice have never done me too badly wrong and as I have some of my fondest gaming memories playing their games I will certainly trust them not to cock it up. We must however wait and see.
 

thatbloke

Junior Administrator
I hope it's amazing. However I've been burnt too many times now by games that look great and are great for about 10-20 hours of play, then you realise you are doing just the same thing over and over and it's not fun.

And slightly OT: without entirely new genres somehow springing up, aren't all games like that?

BF3 will be an FPS: you shoot people
BF2 was an FPS: you shoot people
BC2 was an FPS: you shoot people
COD games are all FPS's: you shoot people

at its core, shooting people is what it's all about...
 

waterproofbob

Junior Administrator
And slightly OT: without entirely new genres somehow springing up, aren't all games like that?

BF3 will be an FPS: you shoot people
BF2 was an FPS: you shoot people
BC2 was an FPS: you shoot people
COD games are all FPS's: you shoot people

at its core, shooting people is what it's all about...

Yes, however here is where games differentiate themselves. The simple act of shooting someone in a game with a gun has lost most of it's appeal to me. Granted getting good kills and having a decent K:D is nice.

A great FPS for me is about so much more. BF2 and 2142 rocked due to the support network and everything you did that wasn't shooting people in the face as a squad and then a team to win. This is where BC2 is an ok game but not a great game. You can work as a team and vaguely follow a plan however even with the squad system it's just not the same and lacks the things for me that would make it a great game. It is certainly filling a space that another decent FPS isn't filling for me at the mo but it doesn't compare to the thrill of watching a well planned squad move in BF2 or 2142.

The same is true for the CoD games, by far the best one of those (that I played, I appreciate that CoD 2 players will call that it was better for the competitive side and you may well be right but I never saw it :p) was CoD4. Absolutely you shoot people in the face, but what made that game great for me was playing it competitively to the limited extent we did. Planning routes on maps and seeing individuals shine taking down 3-4 players of the opposition 5 made the game. They also allowed players to customise the servers and improve their mp experience making the game even better in that enviroment.


Shooting people is great, there's lots of FPS that allow me to do that. They all remain unplayed as they lack that additional element that makes me want to perfect my play.
 

Ronin Storm

Administrator
Staff member
I think that's over-simplifying the experience, TB. Most things, when abstracted sufficiently, can be draw into that sort of comparison.

Probably more appropriate comparison would be:

BF2: commander role, fixed scenery, some advancement mechanics, large battlefields, armoured vehicles, player-driven helos
BC2: no commander, destructable scenery, kit customisation, mid sized battlefields, armoured vehicles, player-driven helos
CoD4: no commander, fixed scenery, kit customisation, small battlefields, no vehicles, AI-controlled helos
 

Panda with issues...

Well-Known Member
And slightly OT: without entirely new genres somehow springing up, aren't all games like that?

BF3 will be an FPS: you'll shoot people
BF2 was an FPS: you shot people
BC2 was an FPS: you shot people
COD games are all FPS's: you shoot people CORRECT!

at its core, shooting people is what it's all about...

A lesson in grammar! Today bloke learned about the past, present and future tenses.

And that teaser trailer didn't even tease.
 

Ghostwolf67

Well-Known Member
More info released today - they are going with 4 classes (likely the same/very similar 4 from BC2, imho), but perhaps most importantly, a Co-op mode! :D


I'd be more excited by co-op but honestly its the status-quo right now. I dont buy games anymore that dont have an element of co-operation in them because in my humble gaming fps experience, even the shittest of stories/ lvl design/ quick time events can be made better when you are playing co-op.

The battlefield games are a great series, each has their flaws true but name a game that doesnt? I think this will be another good installment because it will be the same formula as the last 6...? 5? i'm going with 6. I played them all and I liked them all because they all had the same corner stones of squads, guns, roles and objectives supporting a roof wrapped in a nice lvling system for the rpg addicts.

As long as EA hasnt gone on some mass firing spree since BC2 i think i'll look forward to this not being as totally shit sandwich as i usually do.
 

thatbloke

Junior Administrator
I'm *hoping* the co-op is at least 4-player, that way we can get some hardcore gaming sessions on the go :D
 

thatbloke

Junior Administrator
that link sent me to an image, which it now seems was actually the first of 4, when I viewed it yesterday. Did not see the other images there...
 

Haven

Administrator
Staff member
Battlefield 3 - you're a protestor who has to topple an evil dictator government by being shot repeatedly until they run out of bullets and escape the country with countless billions. You're armed with stones, and a mobile phone (but the mobile networks are down).

Just throwing that out there based on the depressing stuff I see on telly every day.
 

Spicypixel

New Member
Who knew, the new teaser is amazingly tease-y. All hail our new DICE overlords
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