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Re: 1.2 patch information and 2 new booster packes, euro force and armoured fury deta
Could we please click the reply button on the post we are replying too, not on the last post.
Incredibly difficult to follow a trail of thought in Threaded Mode, when you keep having to click "more replies beyond this trail depth" only to find it's a reply to a completly random reply to a differant post
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Could we please click the reply button on the post we are replying too, not on the last post.
Incredibly difficult to follow a trail of thought in Threaded Mode, when you keep having to click "more replies beyond this trail depth" only to find it's a reply to a completly random reply to a differant post
"waits for the neatness Nazi to strike"
Re: 1.2 patch information and 2 new booster packes, euro force and armoured fury deta
Nor me.
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Nor me.
Re: 1.2 patch information and 2 new booster packes, euro force and armoured fury details!
We all have our own sense of identity, some will fill in forms saying european, some UK and others british or english.
This deserves a thread of its own - every nation has lawmakers and lawbreakers. In the UK we have the battle between "yob culture" and "nanny state britain" plus a whole raft of other press generated phrases to further divide and inspire fear. Its little different in Europe where every nation tries to punch above its weight and come out with a better deal for itself, miring us in new trade agreement and legislature along the way. I'm not going to expand further in this thread but there is a lot more to this than just Brussels are crap...
We all have our own sense of identity, some will fill in forms saying european, some UK and others british or english.
This deserves a thread of its own - every nation has lawmakers and lawbreakers. In the UK we have the battle between "yob culture" and "nanny state britain" plus a whole raft of other press generated phrases to further divide and inspire fear. Its little different in Europe where every nation tries to punch above its weight and come out with a better deal for itself, miring us in new trade agreement and legislature along the way. I'm not going to expand further in this thread but there is a lot more to this than just Brussels are crap...
[THN]Buffalo_Hunter
In Cryo Sleep
Tell me one good thing the EU has done for us.
We spend billions on it each year (most of which goes on farm subsidies for French farmers - where's the fairness in that?), they interfere with our laws, increase beauracracy, suffer from massive fraud and most of the MEPs don't even work a full day! Now they expect us to give up our rebate for nothing in return.
The Euro is becoming increasingly unpopular as a lot of countries saw it as an excuse to raise prices.
Given the desire for global free trade, isn't forming a European superstate going against that principle? It's more like a protection racket.
No, I think we're better off without Europe - we can sell goods irrespective of the currency.
We spend billions on it each year (most of which goes on farm subsidies for French farmers - where's the fairness in that?), they interfere with our laws, increase beauracracy, suffer from massive fraud and most of the MEPs don't even work a full day! Now they expect us to give up our rebate for nothing in return.
The Euro is becoming increasingly unpopular as a lot of countries saw it as an excuse to raise prices.
Given the desire for global free trade, isn't forming a European superstate going against that principle? It's more like a protection racket.
No, I think we're better off without Europe - we can sell goods irrespective of the currency.
DeZmond
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Lol.[THN]Buffalo_Hunter said:
On the issue of identity, I'll offer you my thoughts:
I live in Scotland, and therefore first and foremost I am Scottish. Then it could be said I live in the UK, therefore I am British. Being European is at the bottom of the pile, it has to be said.
The EU seems to be in a perpetual habit of creating crazy and ill-thought-out laws, which have a knock on effect in countries which have perfectly decent laws already. Case in point: pretty much EU law governing business.
Another example is fishing, which of very great concern to us Scots, as those who live in the north and at the coast rely on fishing for income, and the ridiciculous quotas which we have to abide by are killing the industry pretty quickly.
And don't even get me started on the Common Agricultural Policy.
The UK's rebate should have been kept, in it's entirety, until a solid agreement was reached to lower the French subsidy.
Yep, that's pretty much a summary of my thoughts. Though I should probably point out that I have nothing against our European neighbors, just the political union behind it!
[disclaimer: this post is meant to be sarcastic/satiric so please don't take offense at the tone. the message is serious however.]
whoa there cowboy. Here's a little breakdown of the net monetary flow to and from EU. I know, let's do a little comparison between oh I don't know sweden and uk perhaps?
UK paid 11682,5M € in 2004, and got 6989,8M € back. That gives a total of -4692,7M €.
Sweden had a total of -1255,1M € (http://epp.eurostat.cec.eu.int/). The population in UK was roughly 60 million, the population in sweden about 8.5M (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook).
That means per person, UK peeps paid roghly 78 €. Swedes paid 147 €. We can go on if you like; UK and Sweden has about the same GDP per capita: 25K € or 30K $. (http://www.oecd.org)
France has also roughly the same GDP/c, 60M inhabitants, and pays 57€/c.
If we look at the european commision's count (not counting tolls etc that are the same for the whole union) UK pays about half as much per capita, while sweden stays about the same. Oh and counting that way france pays more than UK, too.
so shush, get your facts straight and stop exploiting us swedes. *grumble*
whoa there cowboy. Here's a little breakdown of the net monetary flow to and from EU. I know, let's do a little comparison between oh I don't know sweden and uk perhaps?
UK paid 11682,5M € in 2004, and got 6989,8M € back. That gives a total of -4692,7M €.
Sweden had a total of -1255,1M € (http://epp.eurostat.cec.eu.int/). The population in UK was roughly 60 million, the population in sweden about 8.5M (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook).
That means per person, UK peeps paid roghly 78 €. Swedes paid 147 €. We can go on if you like; UK and Sweden has about the same GDP per capita: 25K € or 30K $. (http://www.oecd.org)
France has also roughly the same GDP/c, 60M inhabitants, and pays 57€/c.
If we look at the european commision's count (not counting tolls etc that are the same for the whole union) UK pays about half as much per capita, while sweden stays about the same. Oh and counting that way france pays more than UK, too.
so shush, get your facts straight and stop exploiting us swedes. *grumble*
DeZmond
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Don't worry doc, we'll get you over here to where the land is cheaper and er... well... cold. Hmm.
Nice work on your research doc, I hadn't bothered to do that much (hey, I've been really busy!) so I couldn't really say too much to that. However, if it is going to be fair I'd support the lowering of payment for Sweeden and vastly increasing France's.
Nice work on your research doc, I hadn't bothered to do that much (hey, I've been really busy!) so I couldn't really say too much to that. However, if it is going to be fair I'd support the lowering of payment for Sweeden and vastly increasing France's.
Gibsonfire
In Cryo Sleep
wow, its amazing how the human mind works. Originally we were talking about BF2 and now we are talking about what it is to be british.
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