The Haven Net now has a Bad Company 2 server!

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Eh despite the specifics, camping is camping, and you got killed by an anti camping mehanism. You don't have to defend yourself, I know you are a good player, miles better than me; but I don't see why you can't accept that there is a counter in the game for your playstyle and someone used it.

Yeah you would be right if i had been crouched in cover in that example. In light of all the details i left out, it was a terrible example, as the building was missing its entire B facing wall.

Though in the situation i was describing the rpg7 missile was fired through a window into me, not against the building i was in, the shot he made could have been just as easily pulled off with a gun.

 

[Traxata]

Is it not your fault for providing a target by standing with your silhouette in a window..?

Either way, the RPG at a building is not a crime. going through the window isn't any different to hitting the wall, you're still placing that shot inside.

In BF3 putting an RPG in through the window will blow out internal structure and glass. Frostbite purely limited your example in BC2.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Is it not your fault for providing a target by standing with your silhouette in a window..?

Theres the problem with the example, i thought people would take it at face value rather than pick it appart; in this example i wasnt stood at a window, the missile came through a window as i stated.

At this point, this is feeling pointless*. I represent the majority view of the wider community of BFBC2, and in keeping with that i admin by the consensus. There are too many people here who do not follow the consensus, while everyone is entitled to their own view of how the game is, the consensus decides the server setups, not the way people play.

This community is is too far to the opposite of the consensus i am following, thus its always 4 to 1 with anything i say and those who agree with me offboard, silent. With everything i say to the wider view being picked apart, i give up.

If the wider consensus was not the way it was, i would not set up the server in that way, its is purely a coincidence that my view falls in line with that view.

Everyone can play the way they want to.

Infuture please direct server related complains and inquiries to the thread provided in the Battlefield forum. Not having the thread already was a poor oversight (Previously i would just say bloke im doing this, do you object?).

 

[Kasatka]

Sorry you feel that way Ki!ler-Mk1, but isn't it more important to you that your server is set up according to the preferences of the THN community, or is the server more for your personal wants regarding the wider B:BC2 community?
Sorry to pose a potential minefield of a question, but i think a lot of us may have the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Sorry you feel that way Mk1.

Im sorry, what?

If you mean what i think you mean then the answer is yes, it is important to balance the needs of the wider bfbc2 community with our own desires. I have been on too many server run by bad admins. Who did the opposite. The worsed examples of this are weapon/rank limiting, and then whitelisting the effect against the VIP slots.

It is important to remember that there are many considerations,my co-admin(we pay equal share) has vetoed or not each configuration setting.
Examples:

Hardcore - the mode most desired by the community - he vetoed
Limiting resslots - he agreed
Excluding boring maps - his idea - i implemented.

We mainly work by having an idea and if the other doesnt veto it, it happens.

Ultimately its important that visitors to the server are happy. Its impossible to keep us as a community happy, because among the admins its like this:
Softcore - 1
Hardcore - 0
Dontcare - 3
And in the community its like this(rough average):
Softcore - <1
Hardcore - 2
Dontcare - 3


Its also, while irrellevent to note i have funded 96% of the server until collections at i43.

Additionally, i dont know the polite way to phrase this, so please assume its in the most polite way possible:

I do not need to explain, but as i was allowed to use the THN domain, i am explaining, and i hope it is appreciated that i am taking the time to explain the thoughts and logic behind any server settings (Which incidentally were already transparently displayed in the Server thread).

 

[Kasatka]

I'm sorry if i caused any offense man, i was aware that the server was privately funded i just wasn't sure what the motivation was behind it. Thanks for explaining though.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

The Server will terminate on 17th October, and will not be renewed at that point.

 

[Spicypixel]

The Server will terminate on 17th October, and will not be renewed at that point.

But you're totally getting a BF3 server right?

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

But you're totally getting a BF3 server right?

Well, we need to get some contributions from other people for this, as its £64 per month (at 64 slots, and thats the price at the 50% server pre order discount). Havent decided anything regarding contributions yet, but ~£4 several(8ish) times would be great, lol.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

The Server will terminate on 17th October, and will not be renewed at that point.

The server will end on 17th september instead of october, in addition to bloke and i not playing it much, since i43 i've seen no one play.

Pls ammend first post

But you're totally getting a BF3 server right?

Bloke and i are planning to get one if we can raise £16 more than we already have (Thread about this in late october).

 

[Panda with issues...]

Well, we need to get some contributions from other people for this, as its £64 per month (at 64 slots, and thats the price at the 50% server pre order discount). Havent decided anything regarding contributions yet, but ~£4 several(8ish) times would be great, lol.

Come on, seriously, £64 a month is ridiculous. There's no way that's worth it.

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

Come on, seriously, £64 a month is ridiculous. There's no way that's worth it.

I cant think of an example right now lol, but its one of those things where if no body does it every body suffers, effectively EA are not only outsourcing the hosting, but the funding too. There will be very few(percentage wise) servers not privately funded or run. Spread over 8-16 people it isnt that bad.


On other other hand, if everyone boycotted we'd have no where to play

 

[Panda with issues...]

On other other hand, if everyone boycotted we'd have no where to play

If everyone boycotted they'd have to reassess their ridiculous pricing structure.

 

[VibroAxe]

Err, is BF3 going to be hosted only? or can we run ded?

 

[Kasatka]

Hosted sucks. The day games don't allow dedicated at all anymore is the day i stop online gaming

 

[Ki!ler-Mk1]

What i'd like to know is, i doubt EA gets much profit from the 3 companies which will host BF3, so that leaves the alternative being that it saves EA money to do it this way, which of course leaves, why cant there be free servers we host our selves?

Actually looking at that i guess EA must make money, cus if they didnt, we'd have dedicated servers.

 

[thatbloke]

The pricing is based on £2/slot but by preordering we get a 50% discount.

The simple fact is that a 32-slot BF3 server needs more than twice the horsepower of a 32 slot BC2 server - when you have 64 players that again doubles the resources required.

In addition, this pricing is nothing to do with EA - it's the server provider's pricing. As far as I am aware, we will not be able to host our own box, and even if we become able to at some point, it's entirely likely that we will not be able to host a ranked server in this manner (meaning it would only be usable for clan matches).