Panda with issues...
Well-Known Member
If you want to constantly fire rockets at people's feet, there are multiple games like quake and UT for that...
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thatbloke
Junior Administrator
Fixed that ^^
Also, Shooting a rocket in someone's face when said face is not in/near a vehicle and is out in the open = generally frowned upon
Kasatka
Active Member
Shooting the rocket is fine if a) you dont use enhanced explosives, or b) don't do it regularl with enhanced explosives.
Solemn
New Member
ahh soo..
Sitting in a building and camping = OK
Shooting rocket with enhanced explosives (no idea what this is lol) at building to kill camping infintiry = not OK
Shoot normal rocket without enchanced stuff at build and not hurting the camper = ok?
Also throwing a tantrum when someone kills me ever, is that ok, because I'm female and thus entitled hehe.
Sitting in a building and camping = OK
Shooting rocket with enhanced explosives (no idea what this is lol) at building to kill camping infintiry = not OK
Shoot normal rocket without enchanced stuff at build and not hurting the camper = ok?
Also throwing a tantrum when someone kills me ever, is that ok, because I'm female and thus entitled
hehe.
waterproofbob
Junior Administrator
Shooting a rocket at a building to take out a camper I have no issue with what so ever. I also don't take massive issue with well aimed rocket shots, what annoys me with the cg is the number of people that use it as a run and gun weapon like I would an smg.
I think mk1 has hit the nail on the head with this, with all server rules they are a work in progress. As he has said let us wait and see if this becomes an issue. If people start getting kicked all over the place then readdress it. However I'm fairly sure looking at it that isn't all that likely to occur.
I think mk1 has hit the nail on the head with this, with all server rules they are a work in progress. As he has said let us wait and see if this becomes an issue. If people start getting kicked all over the place then readdress it. However I'm fairly sure looking at it that isn't all that likely to occur.
Traxata
Junior Administrator
Judging by your stats, was it you?
thatbloke
Junior Administrator
Judging by your stats, was it you?
no.
You'll find that 98% of those CG kills of mine were all vehicles, particularly choppers *hugs his tracer dart gun*
Spicypixel
New Member
Cheeky.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
The mod cant kick*, i have purposely been ambiguous about this before because the actual setup is spelled out in the configuration thread in the social group with complete transparency.
I kicked someone once because the server identified them as an abuser more than once, especially since it is not active on conquest tank maps.
*The mods default settings are far more aggressive than i have set them, they are first offence kill, followed by kick, 3 kicks ban.
If bloke did not use the CG** i admit, i would have used the kit restrictor to disable that weapon, and at the point where you silk would have complain about that, i would have re-enabled it.
**I am not reneging on my previous comments about this not being about the CG, people have made it about CG no matter what i have said the contrary, so im being more transparent on how i came to configure the server.
I have still not decided if i should restrict the enhanced explosives, that has been on my mind for a while, but i have not and will not addressed it because BF3 is on the horizon.
And for those of you who managed to read this far, here is a little story.
So, im in the 2 storey house next to B on the A side on map oasis conquest, i have from that building alone with the sv98 sniper rifle and mp-443 got a k/d of 28/4(killing people at all 3 bases) and i was on a streak of 14 when one of my three nemisis, after storming the building and getting pistolled to death by me, at least 7 times between them, loaded up his RPG-7 enhanced explosives and sent a missile in through the window. This wasnt on our server, but if it was i would have kicked him.I consider that abuse. If it was with C4, mortar strike, 40mm nade, i would have let it go. But an RPG from a skilless spineless person, no sir not me, after the round ended i left. That kill did not require skill. (For reference and to inflate my head, i got over 20 headshot kills that round).
No (Go an explanation, but its insulting inteligence to say tbh.)
Panda with issues...
Well-Known Member
I don't see anything wrong with that. That's a legitimate use of a rocket propelled grenade. Denial/destruction of cover/hardpoints.
When people start firing them at people in the open and using them as close range weapons is when I have a problem.
Here's a theoretical story:
A group of royal marines are clearing an urban area. A strategically important street is being covered by a sniper from a nest in a distant building. Having already taken casualties moving up the street, the Lieutenant decides to flank and storm the building. This assault is repelled as the squad is hung up on a staircase, with grenades and booby traps, sustaining more casualties. Worried for the lives of the men under his command, the officer calls up the big guns and puts an explosive RPG through the window of the sniper nest from a safe distance, solving the problem without further casualties, using lateral thinking.
When continuing up the street, the Royal Marines spot a number of enemies dodging across open ground. They take aim and fire their rifles on them, rather than wasting another RPG round on a target it is NOT SUITED FOR.
They move into dense urban terrain, and the RPG is stowed, as to use it in these close quarters would be SUICIDE, and cost the lives of most of the squad.
Huung
Well-Known Member
Agreed. Flushing people out of cover IS the valid use of RPGs/CGs IMO
Kasatka
Active Member
I totally agree with Huung and Panda (shock horror!) that if you go as far as to punish people for using the games weapons as intended, and making use of it's destructible terrain - then why are we even playing BB:C2?
Counterstrike would offer most things bar the terrain destruction, and you wouldn't have to complain about constant explosives.
Counterstrike would offer most things bar the terrain destruction, and you wouldn't have to complain about constant explosives.
Silk
Well-Known Member
Well I must be imagining the one shot kills then.
As for your little story, interestingly when I read it I see you as being in the wrong. It goes to show we all have our opinion on how the game "should" be played. I don't think camping should be allowed, and I am of the opinion that the devs put an anti-camping gun in the game on purpose. And you got killed with it. Perhaps if you had moved, you wouldn't have been blown up.
One one hand you brag nobody could get close enough to you to kill you and if they did you pistol-killed them. On the other hand you say the only way you would "accept" an explosive death is if.. someone got close enough to kill you (C4, nade, etc). That's a contradiction. Also you'd "accept" mortar strike only because you know full well it's easy to avoid death from.
What I don't understand from all this is how it's "ok" for your playstyle (camping) but not ok for my playstyle (anti camping) when in fact both are required for a balanced game.
Ki!ler-Mk1
Active Member
I said i would have, NOT i have. There is a difference between punishing douchebags and punishing accidents and innocence. This is why the server doesnt kick ppl. In the situation where i kicked someone, i didnt just do it, i asked in chat what was going on, though there were no tanks so it wasnt hard to figure it out after the people responsible didnt respond and others did.
No terrain was destroyed.
No, i was not bragging, no no no no no. I was giving perspective as to what could drive someone to do that. Ive not a problem being killed like that, its when they are too skilless to manage it with a gun while im streaking. I defended my fort lol as a the walls were crashing down around me. Yeah there were walls missing, but the rpg that killed me didnt remove them.
I can see that i underestimated the response i would get, i thought we were ready (I left this message a day n a bit after writing - hindsight i shouldnt have put it here, but elsewhere instead).
Spose i should have mentioned it came from an elevated position above me when the guy had line of sight to me, through a window, and hit me straight on. And i had already sniped him twice(at the same window).
There was no cover removed.... It was an rpg.
Huh? No, mortars are hard to avoid. Just ask bloke, they kill me all the time. Besides, mortars require skill, i still havent 100 kills with it.
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Also, the event i mentioned happened last week, 7 weeks after i set up the server, it had no influence on the server set up.
Silk
Well-Known Member
Eh despite the specifics, camping is camping, and you got killed by an anti camping mehanism. You don't have to defend yourself, I know you are a good player, miles better than me; but I don't see why you can't accept that there is a counter in the game for your playstyle and someone used it.
That's because.. they are easy to avoid being killed by, like I said